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Guessing the Breeds Behind a Mixed Breed

Post by HiTenshi16 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:39 am

So we believe our dog Rukia, is a German Shepherd x Lab/Australian Cattle Dog mix. We base this on the fact that her mum, Foxy, was a Lab x Australian Cattle Dog mix, her littermates looked like mini German Shepherd puppies (except a couple where one resembled their mum, another similar to a black and white Collie). We have had our vet agree that she looks like a German Shepherd mix, have had people at dog parks ask if she was a German Shepherd mix, and after doing a search on Google Images, Petfinder, AdoptAPet, ect, many German Shepherd mixes look just like Rukia.

My youngest sister was trying to argue with me how it is impossible for Rukia to have German Shepherd in her simply because they only saw one black Lab mix dog mate with Foxy. Foxy was always tied up outside, it is also where she slept (when she had puppies, they all were brought inside), and she was never spayed, ended up having puppies each time she went in heat. The only time anyone knew Foxy was in heat, was when they saw a male mount her. There yard was easy to get in too, even though it was fenced, one side had no gate, just left open. There were indeed other dogs that ran astray, I've even seen a loose German Shepherd on the other side of town (a very small town btw) who seemed to belong to the one house he was staying by.

I tried to explain how their can be multiple sires to a litter, how a male may be more fertile than another, and I know they were not watching Foxy 24/7 (she says they did watch her 24/7 and I told her I know she had to of slept sometime, a mating could of easily taken place then). I also explained how some breeds have more dominant genes because of being longer established and with Foxy being a Lab mix and the male a Lab mix, the puppies would not have looked like German Shepherd puppies.

Of course, what do I know?

So for curiosity's sake, what would you say Rukia looks like a mix of?
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I am also curious if there are any Breed Tests that would tell what breeds are behind a dog that would be best recommended? Might be fun to do one of those on a Tamaskan just to see what it says.
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Re: Guessing the Breeds Behind a Mixed Breed

Post by TParham86 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:24 am

Hmmm I'd say she looks like a Australian Cattle Dog/Rottweiler mix. Only because her coloring around her face and chest is similar to a Rotty :) Beautiful Dog!

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Post by Katlin » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:06 am

Definitely Kelpie, maybe some border collie, as well as a bit of shepherd.
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Post by balto13 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:41 am

I just read an article on people in humane societies and how they label dogs. About how people only go back to about 30 breeds when guessing a dog when in reality there are hundreds of breeds, mixes and combos to make similar looks. I don't know what she is but I bet there are many combos that make it and she is gorgeous :)

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Post by Booma » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:08 am

Her colouring makes me think kelpie
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Post by MelB » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:50 am

I also thought rottie but what ever she is she's stunning.

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Post by TerriHolt » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:13 pm

I also see rottie due to the face. I have seen a dog just like her for sale on fb recently (10 month old, just had a baby, yadda yadda yadda :roll: ) and that was a rottie x (just been to go snag the pic but it's gone)... Rottie/husky x sheepdog/lab/something else (can't remember the 3rd name)...
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:20 pm

I'll take a couple more photos (front standing, back standing, and side standing) so everyone can have a bit more fun "phenotyping" Rukia.
Also if anyone knows of any Breed Tests there are that could test for the breeds behind her, do let us know!

This thread is not just about her either, if anyone else has a mixed breed they would like to share and let everyone guess the breeds behind, please share :D
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Post by Tana » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:12 pm

We have in Ljubljana, Slovenia Institute for Dna analysis for dogs, birds, horses and cats. They also do Breed tests for dogs. But you probably would find it somewhere closer ;) .

Here is my beloved mix, you can guessing breeds behinde her...
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Post by Balto » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:28 pm

beautiful dog
american akita and...?

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Post by Tiantai » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:36 pm

It looks like a Kai-ken and American Akita mix to me
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Post by TerriHolt » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:37 pm

GSD x Akita?

Ohhh, this is fun :D (i am way too easily amused :oops: ).
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Post by TParham86 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:52 pm

I agree she looks like she's an Akita mix :) She's a beautiful dog! Love the pictures BTW, very nice scenery!

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Re: Guessing the Breeds Behind a Mixed Breed

Post by Tana » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:06 pm

TerriHolt wrote:GSD x Akita?
Yep, it is GSD x Akita. Her mother was actually completely white Japanese Akita.

It was too easy, I note :)

TParham86 wrote: She's a beautiful dog! Love the pictures BTW, very nice scenery!
Oh thank you. I love her soo much. She is not mine actually, I walk and train her since she was a puppy. Such an amazing dog.

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Post by TerriHolt » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:14 pm

Tana wrote:
TerriHolt wrote:GSD x Akita?
Yep, it is GSD x Akita. Her mother was actually completely white Japanese Akita.

It was too easy, I note :)

TParham86 wrote: She's a beautiful dog! Love the pictures BTW, very nice scenery!
Oh thank you. I love her soo much. She is not mine actually, I walk and train her since she was a puppy. Such an amazing dog.
Yay! :D I nearly missed it but looking back up top I saw the black GSD type saddle... But apart from that, she looks like an american akita I often see tied up and barking outside the supermarket... Even down to colour.

I agree, the pictures are amazing... Much better scenery than we got here...
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Post by Tana » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:40 pm

Here, if you compare her with that one, you see only GSD :lol: Japanese akitas do have such colour.
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Re: Guessing the Breeds Behind a Mixed Breed

Post by Nino » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:36 pm

Jo - do you have any photos of your girls mom?
That could help out a bit :)

I am curious if you guys can guess this one - we get a certain mix quite often and I am wondering if that is just something people think here..

(Those that know already - please do not spoil the fun ;) )
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:48 am

Rukia is somewhat co-operative with me, here are some other views of her.
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Nino wrote:Jo - do you have any photos of your girls mom?
That could help out a bit :))
Unfortunately these are the only photos I could find of Foxy, said to be a Lab x Australian Cattle Dog
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What would you all say what breeds Foxy looks like she is mixed of?
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Post by Booma » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:55 pm

I see lab. I think I also see acd.
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Re: Guessing the Breeds Behind a Mixed Breed

Post by Nino » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:22 pm

seeing the mother I would have to guess the father of rukia either has erect ears or has "rose" ears (like the ones she has, also breeds like the whippit and greyhound have those ears)

I gotta say that it is not unlikely that a bi-color (black and tan) GSD could be the father of hers..
She has a mask (besides the tan) on her face
Also if I look on her body structure on the first photo she is not too far away from a GSD, though she is quite slim for one (even mixed) when looking at the mom.
Her coat seems fairly full too
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Post by JoaquimJoe » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:44 pm

Foxy: Fox Terrier x whippetcross or maybe shibacross
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:24 pm

Nino wrote:seeing the mother I would have to guess the father of rukia either has erect ears or has "rose" ears (like the ones she has, also breeds like the whippit and greyhound have those ears)

I gotta say that it is not unlikely that a bi-color (black and tan) GSD could be the father of hers..
She has a mask (besides the tan) on her face
Also if I look on her body structure on the first photo she is not too far away from a GSD, though she is quite slim for one (even mixed) when looking at the mom.
Her coat seems fairly full too
The rest of Rukia's litter mates had erect ears (aside from the one that looked like her mum). We keep Rukia on the slim side because sometimes there will be days she refuses to go poo so that the next day she would have an accident inside (separation anxiety from my husband), unless we take her to a park where she will take a Great Dane sized poo (she even looks like she lost weight then).

Foxy was never on the best diet. They would fill a big mixing bowl with the cheapest dog food and leave it out for her.
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