"Tamaskan Wolfdog" (RightPuppy Kennel - RPK)

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Post by AZDehlin » Fri May 13, 2011 11:27 pm

cbannow wrote: So he is reading all the sites and creating fake profiles. Are we shocked??? NO!
He has too much time on his hands.

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Post by Megaen » Fri May 13, 2011 11:43 pm

AZDehlin wrote:
cbannow wrote: So he is reading all the sites and creating fake profiles. Are we shocked??? NO!
He has too much time on his hands.

Agreed

wow someone with more time on there hands then me :? :? :? didn't think that was possible :lol: Creating all these fake profiles also mean he has to create fake email addys now I do have some alias accounts as well but to go around harassing people again and again my god he needs to get a life or better meds preferably anti-psychotics zombie him out for awhile so he'd leave everyone alone for once

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Post by cbannow » Sat May 14, 2011 12:13 am

He should be spending more time with his dogs and less time surfing what others do with theirs. Right??? I have no desire to talk with that guy, it's pointless...he hangs himself by his own actions.
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Post by Megaen » Sat May 14, 2011 12:53 am

cbannow wrote:He should be spending more time with his dogs and less time surfing what others do with theirs. Right??? I have no desire to talk with that guy, it's pointless...he hangs himself by his own actions.

Yep that's what he should be doing but I'm sure in his pathetic excuse for a mind thinks he does everything perfectly that's why he keeps hanging himself wondering when the rope will finally run out....

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Post by Hiwatari » Sat May 14, 2011 1:54 am

Blustag wrote:If this had been me and I was using the name Tamaskan and had all this 'bad' publicity to my kennels then I would have used my brains and changed the name to avoid the word Tamaskan. Dosnt he and the Aatu people realise that they will be persecuted until the cows come home (forever) by all the 'genuine' Tamaskan followers until they finally give up on our name. Surely the sooner they do this the better for them. They are only bringing bad publicty to their websites and forums... what dumbos!!!! Why dont they change the name to include Native American Indian Dogs or something similar and get on with their lives and no problems from us... makes sense to me!!
I'm jumping in on this very late, but you would know about changing the breed's name and moving on when making a new breed. Not to sound bad or anything by saying that.

As for him changing the name to not have Tamaskan in it. I've told him time and time again to just do that. The change from having wolfdog, I'm guessing was duo to me leaving and the other kennel showing them as Tamaskan/wolf hybrid puppies after being told to just list them as wolf hybrids. That's a guess and not confirmed.

Now about the American Tamaskan, not saying he should call his dogs this as he wants to not deal with being bothers by Tamaskan breeders. But I have thought about the name change he did. A lot of breeds have American type and German or other types. Like I have an American lab, their bigger and for the fields. Then there are English labs that are smaller and more family type of labs. So I thought one day the Tamaskan breeders may do something like this. Not saying the breed has to, just that a lot of AKC breeds duo have two different main types of dogs. Just a thought.

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Re: "Tamaskan Wolfdog" (RightPuppy Kennel - RPK)

Post by Lyss » Sat May 14, 2011 2:51 am

Hiwatari wrote:Now about the American Tamaskan, not saying he should call his dogs this as he wants to not deal with being bothers by Tamaskan breeders. But I have thought about the name change he did. A lot of breeds have American type and German or other types. Like I have an American lab, their bigger and for the fields. Then there are English labs that are smaller and more family type of labs. So I thought one day the Tamaskan breeders may do something like this. Not saying the breed has to, just that a lot of AKC breeds duo have two different main types of dogs. Just a thought.
Would think any difference in breed 'type' should be undertaken by responsible breeders registered with the TDR ;)

Also, I thought there were already two types of Tamaskan. The North American (Jodie) bloodlines and European (Jackal) bloodlines. And as he is no longer breeding true Tamaskan, calling his breed "American Tamaskan" is misleading since it implies that his 'breed' produces a consistent type.

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Post by Megaen » Sat May 14, 2011 2:56 am

I agree it should NOT be him to come up with this type it should, as it's already been mentioned, be a registered breeder with the TDR he only changed his name to mislead any possible buyer (god I hope they're aren't any) by not letting them know they are in fact wolf hybrids which in alot of states it is illegal to have one. (again already mentioned)

As for the AKC Tamaskans aren't even recognized by them, or anyone else for that matter. I would also think the Kennel Club in the UK and/or Europe or the Fédération Cynologique Internationale (FCI) would be first on the list years down the road... That's my thought anyways as the AKC annoys me to death already (as I mentioned on the Akita Inu post) lol

So bringing up what the AKC does or has done is pointless especially when the person that mentioned it is planning/talked about breeding mixed breeds... imo

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Post by Tarheel » Sat May 14, 2011 4:29 am

Also, I thought there were already two types of Tamaskan. The North American (Jodie) bloodlines and European (Jackal) bloodlines. And as he is no longer breeding true Tamaskan, calling his breed "American Tamaskan" is misleading since it implies that his 'breed' produces a consistent type.
No, this was referrring to the dogs wolf like appearance. Jackel has the look of a European wolf and Jody has the look of a North American Timber wolf.
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Post by cbannow » Sat May 14, 2011 4:48 am

I would think it would be the same breed to "split" into separate versions due to geographic locations by the qualified and origin of the breed, the TDR. That would be the only way to give a "split" name such as northern, southern or in this case American versions.

A man who does not have TDR Tamaskans and cross-breeds with inconsistent looks and breeds things such as the shamaskaninu (whatever that is?) is not qualified to do such things.

I can walk into the hospital tomorrow and say I'm not a nurse, i'm a doctor. Someone is going to say prove it! I would have to back that up. There are no TDR certifications on his dogs. He got mad and voila! makes his own fake TDR certifications. He has gone against regulation of what a true Tamaskan is from the beginning and broken every rule out there to make money off these dogs. It's a shame for the dogs...
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Post by Tarheel » Sat May 14, 2011 4:49 am

Now about the American Tamaskan, not saying he should call his dogs this as he wants to not deal with being bothers by Tamaskan breeders. But I have thought about the name change he did. A lot of breeds have American type and German or other types. Like I have an American lab, their bigger and for the fields. Then there are English labs that are smaller and more family type of labs. So I thought one day the Tamaskan breeders may do something like this. Not saying the breed has to, just that a lot of AKC breeds duo have two different main types of dogs. Just a thought.
I for one never heard labradores described as either American or English. I could not find any Registry such as the AKC or UK that discribed these breeds, or registers English or American Labradores. Direct me to where this is an official breed of Labradore Retriever.
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Post by Hiwatari » Sat May 14, 2011 6:40 am

Tarheel wrote:
Now about the American Tamaskan, not saying he should call his dogs this as he wants to not deal with being bothers by Tamaskan breeders. But I have thought about the name change he did. A lot of breeds have American type and German or other types. Like I have an American lab, their bigger and for the fields. Then there are English labs that are smaller and more family type of labs. So I thought one day the Tamaskan breeders may do something like this. Not saying the breed has to, just that a lot of AKC breeds duo have two different main types of dogs. Just a thought.
I for one never heard labradores described as either American or English. I could not find any Registry such as the AKC or UK that discribed these breeds, or registers English or American Labradores. Direct me to where this is an official breed of Labradore Retriever.
Labrador Retriever is the breed, just they have different types.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/labrador_retriever/
"The gentle, intelligent and family-friendly Labrador Retriever from Canada continues to be the most popular breed in the United States, according to AKC® registration statistics."
http://www.suite101.com/content/america ... abs-a48111
http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/english-american.html
Kai is the field or as some call it the American type.

I'm not saying for there to be two different breeds of Tamaskan. Just that within the TDR you can have types when the breed is more well known. As I said I don't think that RPK should call his dogs American Tamaskan, however someone like you could classify your dogs as that later when the breed is more well known and if little changes show from the overseas. It wouldn't be a new breed just a different area. As dogs do adapt to their new homes over a few year. Your puppies, may have puppies that are bigger or a bit smaller to suit where they live. Therefore that would be a TDR Tamaskan type. No tying to make new breeds or say RPK is right for naming them that. But over the years the Tamaskan here will change, hopefully for the better.

In all truth, when I seen Kai for the first time I thought he was a LabXhound dog. But my vet assured me he was all Lab. I still have blood work done to be sure and he was indeed nothing but lab.

So when the Tamaskan breed is more on it's feet, don't be to worried about having types. Like some more for show and other more for pulling work. It's still over all the same breed, just one may be bigger and the other slimmer is all I'm saying.

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Re: "Tamaskan Wolfdog" (RightPuppy Kennel - RPK)

Post by Lyss » Sat May 14, 2011 7:44 am

Tarheel wrote:
Also, I thought there were already two types of Tamaskan. The North American (Jodie) bloodlines and European (Jackal) bloodlines. And as he is no longer breeding true Tamaskan, calling his breed "American Tamaskan" is misleading since it implies that his 'breed' produces a consistent type.
No, this was referrring to the dogs wolf like appearance. Jackel has the look of a European wolf and Jody has the look of a North American Timber wolf.
I'm not sure what you mean. My definition of 'type' was referring to the different wolf-like appearances found in the Tamaskan. Jackal and Jodie were only examples of the two 'types' (or varieties) of Tamaskan Dogs. For example, Jodie typically produces North American Timber wolf looking pups. So she produces a specific type. Jackal typically produces European Gray wolf looking pups. So he produces a specific type. As Lynn has said before, she "can tell a Jackal pup just by looking at it."
Blustag wrote:I think my answer is that we have two types... the European...Jackal..type and the North American Timber.... Jodie, JJ etc type...
RPK, on the other hand, is trying to pass his mixes off as a 'type' of Tamaskan. But his dogs have no consistent style (unlike Jodie or Jackal); therefore, it's misleading for him to imply that his "American Tamaskan" are the "American" version of the Tam, since his dogs produce wildly different traits, don't conform to any particular standard, and have virtually no unifying trademarks.

Unless he means that his "American Tamaskan" dogs are a 'melting pot' of various breeds ;)

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Post by kendrrat » Sat May 14, 2011 9:12 am

honestly, at this point his dogs are pretty much husky/mal/shepherd mixes (with who knows what else thrown in) and he isnt really breeding a "breed", hes just breeding a lot of mutts. not to say that mutts are bad- they are adorable and can be wonderful dogs. but trying to say that these mutts are tamaskan is ludicrous, especially when his dogs look wildly different litter to litter, let alone compared to a real tam. i mean anyone who looks at his posted costumer reviews (where there is a photo of the customer next to their review) can see from that that none of those dogs look like they came from the same breed. i wonder if his customers realize this? maybe they all really just dont care... a lot of people think "a dog is just a dog" and if they can get a pretty one cheap and easy well then why not? :?

oh, and funny how we just brought up this topic in the akita thread! (in general topics) and yes, in many breeds there are different types- with dogs in different locations diverging from the original look of the breed, or even within a breed dogs built for one purpose or another. however, seeing as the tamaskan is such a young and relatively small breed, i would think that splitting into different types is not something anyone needs to think of soon. or ever maybe? not sure. either way, i dont believe an "american" tamaskan would come anytime soon. and certainly not from RPK.

and if RPK didnt call them tamaskan what would he call them? theyre not even really a breed. he just needs the interest that the word "tamaskan" creates. the only real "breed" he has is the shiba. thats even a little impressive to me now that i think about it :lol:

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Post by Hiwatari » Sat May 14, 2011 3:33 pm

oh, and funny how we just brought up this topic in the akita thread! (in general topics) and yes, in many breeds there are different types- with dogs in different locations diverging from the original look of the breed, or even within a breed dogs built for one purpose or another. however, seeing as the tamaskan is such a young and relatively small breed, i would think that splitting into different types is not something anyone needs to think of soon. or ever maybe? not sure. either way, i dont believe an "american" tamaskan would come anytime soon. and certainly not from RPK.
I fully agree there is not need to think about it now and maybe not ever, nor should RPK call his dogs this. I just brought it up for the fact that one day it may happen. I'll more then likely not be around when it does, however that doesn't mean the breeders now can't plan for it and pass onto the next gen of breeding when the time comes. This way there is already an idea going around of types within the breeders.

As for what he would call his dogs... I don't know. I just know that if he really wants the TDR to leave him alone or be friendly with him he needs to drop the name Tamaskan. I've tried to get that across to him and well, you see the new name.

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Post by Megaen » Sat May 14, 2011 5:10 pm

kendrrat wrote:honestly, at this point his dogs are pretty much husky/mal/shepherd mixes (with who knows what else thrown in) and he isnt really breeding a "breed", hes just breeding a lot of mutts. not to say that mutts are bad- they are adorable and can be wonderful dogs. but trying to say that these mutts are tamaskan is ludicrous, especially when his dogs look wildly different litter to litter, let alone compared to a real tam.
hehe yep RPK really should just call them mutts and that's all b/c it's true they aren't a breed anymore I pity the people that actually believe they are Tamaskan or anything other then a mutt. Maybe pity is to nice a word......

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Post by Sammi58 » Wed May 18, 2011 10:57 pm

RPK did clever wording on the HIS tamaskan club website... THE TAMASKAN CLUB OF AMERICA™ WAS FOUNDED IN MAY OF 2007. IT ACTIVELY HAS OVER THIRTY MEMBERS AND AFFILIATES THROUGHOUT NORTH AMERICA. THE TAMASKAN CLUB OF AMERICA™ RECOGNIZES THE ORIGINAL PARENT CLUB OF THE TAMASKAN DOG WHICH ORIGINATED IN FINLAND AND THE ABOVE STANDARD IS A GUIDELINE FORMATED TO THE AMERICAN VERSION OF THE AMERICAN TAMASKAN.

People may think that there is actual connection between the real clubs and his false club Naive people might foolishly think they are getting real tamaskan. We should hope people do further investigation. :geek:

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Post by kendrrat » Thu May 19, 2011 6:57 am

has that always been there? hmmm

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Post by blufawn » Thu May 19, 2011 11:31 am

Yes, its always been there.

Just to point out that in Deerhounds heads there is a European type and an English type, its the same in German Shepherds, you get a German head and an English head. Everyone in the breeds know about these differences and can spot what head is what very easily, but they do not seperate the breeds into English dogs and European dogs, they are just there....... and they are all the same breed. Should the American Tamaskan start to look different to the European Tamaskan because of the lines they introduce over there I doubt there will EVER be a need to call them American Tamaskan and fight for them to be recognised as an individual breed, we'll have a hard enough time just getting the original Tamaskan Dog recognised...lol
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Post by AngieH » Thu May 19, 2011 3:02 pm

The way I describe it, he just declared his back yard an independent country and started to issue his own birth certificates and social security numbers. Of course, they are only recognized in his own back yard. :roll:

I never visit his sties. Any time I look there, even in disgust or curiosity, I just tally up one more web hit and increase his standings in the search engines. :x

To fight him, I make it a habit to visit legitimate sites regularly, even daily, so the REAL Tamaskan breeders get a boost instead. :lol:
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Post by Hiwatari » Thu May 19, 2011 3:05 pm

blufawn wrote:Yes, its always been there.

Just to point out that in Deerhounds heads there is a European type and an English type, its the same in German Shepherds, you get a German head and an English head. Everyone in the breeds know about these differences and can spot what head is what very easily, but they do not seperate the breeds into English dogs and European dogs, they are just there....... and they are all the same breed. Should the American Tamaskan start to look different to the European Tamaskan because of the lines they introduce over there I doubt there will EVER be a need to call them American Tamaskan and fight for them to be recognised as an individual breed, we'll have a hard enough time just getting the original Tamaskan Dog recognised...lol
The types was all I was tying to get at. Not that RPK can breed American Tamaskan. Just one day within the TDR Tamaskans types may show were the ones in the US have a bigger body or something making them and American type, but still a Tamaskan Dog. Like how Kai is still a lab, but he's the American, field (bigger in size) type. But he's still just a lab. You worded it better then I did. Thanks for the aid in that.

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Post by Nino » Thu May 19, 2011 3:21 pm

Hiwatari wrote:
blufawn wrote:Yes, its always been there.

Just to point out that in Deerhounds heads there is a European type and an English type, its the same in German Shepherds, you get a German head and an English head. Everyone in the breeds know about these differences and can spot what head is what very easily, but they do not seperate the breeds into English dogs and European dogs, they are just there....... and they are all the same breed. Should the American Tamaskan start to look different to the European Tamaskan because of the lines they introduce over there I doubt there will EVER be a need to call them American Tamaskan and fight for them to be recognised as an individual breed, we'll have a hard enough time just getting the original Tamaskan Dog recognised...lol
The types was all I was tying to get at. Not that RPK can breed American Tamaskan. Just one day within the TDR Tamaskans types may show were the ones in the US have a bigger body or something making them and American type, but still a Tamaskan Dog. Like how Kai is still a lab, but he's the American, field (bigger in size) type. But he's still just a lab. You worded it better then I did. Thanks for the aid in that.
You know.. The bigger lab In denmark is called old Danish Labrador - or Show Labrador..

English (or F1 - Formel1) is often mistaked for the smaller one, but actually it is from certain lines which are eceptionally good hunting dogs - though often smaller than the show Labrador, size has nothing to say in this context.

Thats at least here in Denmark
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Post by Hiwatari » Thu May 19, 2011 3:33 pm

Nino wrote:You know.. The bigger lab In denmark is called old Danish Labrador - or Show Labrador..

English (or F1 - Formel1) is often mistaked for the smaller one, but actually it is from certain lines which are eceptionally good hunting dogs - though often smaller than the show Labrador, size has nothing to say in this context.

Thats at least here in Denmark
I didn't know that. I can say when I first got Kai I thought he was a lab mix with some kind of hound dog. But my Vet was the one who told me he was nothing but lab. Also did the blood work as I didn't believe him. That was the only reason I found out about types of dogs in a breed.

However Kai isn't what this topic is on. I fully agree with everyone that RPK should change the name to not having Tamaskan in it. To date no one who got a Tamaskan Wolfdog has gotten new papers for the name change that I know of. Makes me wonder what would happen if I were to be put back on his breeder list as I have Tamaskan Wolfdog's and not American Tamaskan. Wouldn't that be a breeder selling the wrong dogs? Because I'm not changing their papers and all puppies from me would come with both parents papers along with the puppies. Just a thought I had about that, not that I will be doing this. But if I did, would I get new papers after so that the name change would show on my dogs papers?

The following are breeders were are actively breeding and promoting the Tamaskan under the rules and regulations of the Tamaskan Club of America™.

Please Note: If you are not buying a Tamaskan from the one of the Registered Breeders then there is no way to ensure that you are getting an authentic Tamaskan. The Tamaskan Club of America™ maintains a database of all legitimate Tamaskans in North America. Don't be fooled by other breeders claiming to have authentic Tamaskan. Buying an authentic Tamaskan gives you the assurance that all of ethical breeding practices are strictly adhered to. If you have any questions, feel free to contact the Tamaskan Club of America™ for more information.

That also just states Tamaskan not American Tamaskan. Just another thing to point out.

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Re: "Tamaskan Wolfdog" (RightPuppy Kennel - RPK)

Post by kendrrat » Thu May 19, 2011 6:10 pm

Hiwatari wrote:However Kai isn't what this topic is on. I fully agree with everyone that RPK should change the name to not having Tamaskan in it. To date no one who got a Tamaskan Wolfdog has gotten new papers for the name change that I know of. Makes me wonder what would happen if I were to be put back on his breeder list as I have Tamaskan Wolfdog's and not American Tamaskan. Wouldn't that be a breeder selling the wrong dogs? Because I'm not changing their papers and all puppies from me would come with both parents papers along with the puppies. Just a thought I had about that, not that I will be doing this. But if I did, would I get new papers after so that the name change would show on my dogs papers?
ahhhh but thats using logic. kevin does seem to have an ounce in him. also that assuming that the name really even matters. which, it seems, it doesnt. annnnd thats assuming that the papers mattered, or existed at all (in some cases).
Hiwatari wrote:The following are breeders were are actively breeding and promoting the Tamaskan under the rules and regulations of the Tamaskan Club of America™.

Please Note: If you are not buying a Tamaskan from the one of the Registered Breeders then there is no way to ensure that you are getting an authentic Tamaskan. The Tamaskan Club of America™ maintains a database of all legitimate Tamaskans in North America. Don't be fooled by other breeders claiming to have authentic Tamaskan. Buying an authentic Tamaskan gives you the assurance that all of ethical breeding practices are strictly adhered to. If you have any questions, feel free to contact the Tamaskan Club of America™ for more information.

That also just states Tamaskan not American Tamaskan. Just another thing to point out.
True. but its not like anyones happy about that either :|

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Post by Ciaobella » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:06 pm

I just got through all 24 pages (took about 5 hours on/off), and I can tell you I have never seen such a mess of a guy in my life. I hope he can be stopped. Are there any updates on the case?
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Post by Katlin » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:02 am

I edited this because I was wrong with my assumptions, sorry Glenn :oops: :oops:
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Post by kendrrat » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:03 am

:lol: :roll: o jeez... i wasnt aware that site was still going. do people really read all that stuff and not see how ridiculous that guy is? well hey, if they dont want to have a real tamaskan, more for me! ;)

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Post by Katlin » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:56 am

kendrrat wrote::lol: :roll: o jeez... i wasnt aware that site was still going. do people really read all that stuff and not see how ridiculous that guy is? well hey, if they dont want to have a real tamaskan, more for me! ;)
Took the words right out of my mouth! Yeah I didn't think so either until I was clearing out my bookmarks and one was the RPK site from when I was going to get Tundra, one thing led to another and I found that. Weird thing is it's not really set like a screenshot, normally if I click and drag I can move the whole picture. This one highlights like normal text, and it's coded. I'm not sure if that entire conversation is legit or even edited...strange. And no accusations set in your direction Lynn!!!
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Post by TerriHolt » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:17 am

kendrrat wrote::lol: :roll: o jeez... i wasnt aware that site was still going. do people really read all that stuff and not see how ridiculous that guy is?
yep, it does... i came across this yesterday http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=tamaska ... 8#/d2gctto (comments). she even links the tam truth website. shame really, a lot of people will see that and will produce more gullible _____. but coming from someone who owns wolfdogs (so she claims), it could be a compliment to lynn thay she can't tell the difference :lol:

(i'd have screen shot but i'm not sure on the rules about that so i linked...)

i also came across an '8 month old sibe/tam... not sure weather they ment is's a sibe x tam or they arn't sure if it's a sibe or a tam... but looks like a mal, i think :? ... http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=tamaska ... 2#/d3azjko
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Post by Blustag » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:37 pm

More crap I see. Where do they get all this stuff?????? thats a statement not a question by the way ;)

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Post by JulieSmith » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:52 pm

Blustag wrote:More crap I see. Where do they get all this stuff?????? thats a statement not a question by the way ;)
He has a warped imagination :lol:

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Post by Katlin » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:37 pm

Looking at the coding they aren't legit screenshots, they were typed and made to look like screenshots, from what I could tell anyways. I tried to go back but I'm getting "the connection was reset" I wonder if he took it down? :?
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Post by Nino » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:44 pm

nope still there..

even if it was a screen shot how funny would it have been that it was a screen shot made to fit his layout exactly? hmmm just thinking
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Post by Katlin » Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:59 pm

It's back up, so I took another look and did this:
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And then so you could see the coding for my selection, this (note the class="quotecontent") LOL what a dork!
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I know it looks confusing but if this were a LEGIT screenshot you should see something more like "<img src="image name.png">" but instead you see the exact colors, borders, even font that duplicates the forum. My conclusion = it's fake, either RPK spent AGES matching it up or he paid someone to take the design from a real screenshot and duplicate it. Another reason I know it's fake is because of how narrow the "screenshot" is. To prove it I made my window the same size as his table. See what happens? The scroll bars show up rather than resizing to be very narrow...if that makes sense. Here's a pic, edited for my and the sender's privacy.
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LOL just realized this you can CLICK the links. Ok so he's copied and pasted code (copyrighted code I might add) and posted it to his website to make it look like it's a screenshot! What a dummy!! Here's a screenie as my mouse is hovering over the "REPLY WITH QUOTE" LINK! Note the bottom left hand of the screen :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by JulieSmith » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:11 pm

I wish he would spend as much time looking after his dogs as he does making things up to put on his stupid site.

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Post by AZDehlin » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:18 am

What a joke... who runs this site?

Defiantly not a screen shots... So have any proceedings been taken to have this site taken down?

Has anyone seen or talked to Glennz?

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Post by kendrrat » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:57 am

1. wow im shocked that theres actually people out there that believe those bogus websites. but like i said, who needs people like that?

2. that "sib/tam" mix didnt look like it had any "tam' in it at all.... o.O

3. kevin truly knows how to waste time on the computer, all for the sake of hurting other people. what a loser. it SHOULD be obvious to anyone that his content is totally fake. but again, i say *SHOULD* because apparently there are some people that fall for it, hard. :roll: what a loon!

what an absurd waste of time.

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Post by Katlin » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:07 am

AZDehlin wrote:What a joke... who runs this site?

Defiantly not a screen shots... So have any proceedings been taken to have this site taken down?

Has anyone seen or talked to Glennz?
Nope...I think that several people have tried to get the site shut down :evil:
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Post by Nino » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:26 pm

It might be my computer - but if it isn't then the page have been closed atm.
(tried both the rumor page and the front page - but still could be my computer)
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Post by Katlin » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:43 pm

Nino wrote:It might be my computer - but if it isn't then the page have been closed atm.
(tried both the rumor page and the front page - but still could be my computer)
Yep it's down again, sigh, does he have nothing better to do than stalk the forum :roll: :lol:
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Post by TerriHolt » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:58 pm

Boreal wrote:
Nino wrote:It might be my computer - but if it isn't then the page have been closed atm.
(tried both the rumor page and the front page - but still could be my computer)
Yep it's down again, sigh, does he have nothing better to do than stalk the forum :roll: :lol:

it would seem not... {{{ WAVES AT STALKER}}} WOOHOO :lol:

ok, i couldn't resist but... sad, strange little man. if he put half the effort into 'creating' his mal'muts, he might have some healthy pups to sell instead of ones with bad hips etc...
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Post by AZDehlin » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:15 pm

I would stop visiting the site... just helping its ratings go up.

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Post by swake » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:51 pm

Why has no one taken him to court yet? He is bashing you guys clearly which is negitively affecting you. If I am not mistake but his website can in fact forced to be taken down as well as some money in volved. All that's needed is someone to step forth and put a little money into a lawyer. It's called slander if I am not mistaken. Please take note I am not well informed in the court laws and system when it comes to things about this but I am aware that this man can be stopped bashing you guys when it comes to his website and posting the crap he has

Who don't we open a paypal account for donations to help take this fool down?
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Post by kendrrat » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:44 pm

i believe that currently some people are working on just that- taking him to court for the slander etc. its a slow process tho, but i do believe his payback is coming ;)

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Post by swake » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:37 am

Hmmm do you know how many people are going at him at different times? Or is the tamaskan community acting as one unit?
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Post by Sylvaen » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:39 am

swake wrote:Hmmm do you know how many people are going at him at different times? Or is the tamaskan community acting as one unit?
Several members of the TDR Committee are acting as one unit as part of a class action lawsuit for defamation.

There are also several other suits pending, from a former employee to several puppy purchasers to an individual who was recently scammed (which, for legal reasons and for the success of his own case, I can't discuss at this moment)- but yes, there is a lot going on behind-the-scenes these days and these are just the cases that we know of, I expect there could very well be additional ones that we don't know about. Ultimately, it's all about to catch up with him...
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Several members of the TDR Committee are acting as one unit as part of a class action lawsuit for defamation.

There are also several other suits pending, from a former employee to several puppy purchasers to an individual who was recently scammed (which, for legal reasons and for the success of his own case, I can't discuss at this moment)- but yes, there is a lot going on behind-the-scenes these days and these are just the cases that we know of, I expect there could very well be additional ones that we don't know about. Ultimately, it's all about to catch up with him...
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Post by Glennz » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:07 am

The messages from me and Blustag are real.
I copied and pasted them in a mail to the Truth-site.
I have explained why I did it in PM to Sylvean.
He does not respond since I asked about removing it.

Well, let´s explain it anyways, I don´t want to get hated even more.
I asked Blustag questions about her dogs and she thought I was a spy (I believe) and became a little irritated.
Irritation went to angriness and sooner or later every Admin was "attacking" me.
I was being accused of harassing while just asking questions.
I have autism, I get angry quick and lack social skills.
Then, I became really angry and instead of talking about it, I sent the messages to Kevin.
I also made my own truth-site but fortunetly I did not post it online.

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Post by Rahne » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:58 am

Glennz wrote:The messages from me and Blustag are real.
I copied and pasted them in a mail to the Truth-site.
That's the reason why Blustag and the others of the TDR aren't awnsering 'questions' about their dogs to just anyone.. Because then it might be used against them and spread on the internet by RPK and Aatu. :roll:
Glennz wrote:He does not respond since I asked about removing it.
Of course he doesn't! He can use this b*llsh*t to defame Blustag even more.
Glennz wrote:Well, let´s explain it anyways, I don´t want to get hated even more.
I asked Blustag questions about her dogs and she thought I was a spy (I believe) and became a little irritated.
She trusted people in the past and then they turned and used the information she gave them against her. It's no suprise she is now very wary of people asking her questions, and she doesn't know you at all either.
Glennz wrote: Irritation went to angriness and sooner or later every Admin was "attacking" me.
I was being accused of harassing while just asking questions.
I have autism, I get angry quick and lack social skills.
Then, I became really angry and instead of talking about it, I sent the messages to Kevin.
It's too bad you lack social skills but if several people tell you to drop this and that you aren't going to get any awsners you want then maybe you should just listen. Telling this to Kevin IS what everyone was worried about, very stupid thing to do :roll:
Glennz wrote:I also made my own truth-site but fortunetly I did not post it online.
Right... Well if you don't want to make things even worse then I suggest you stop with this. It's going to get backfired at you.

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Post by Glennz » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:13 am

Rahne wrote: Right... Well if you don't want to make things even worse then I suggest you stop with this. It's going to get backfired at you.
Stop this?
This happened a month or two ago.

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Post by blufawn » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:25 am

It is inevitable that if someone who is new to the forum, who does not own a Tamaskan and who is not on the list to buy a puppy from any Tamaskan breeders starts sending private messages asking about the pre foundation dogs (rumors of which are on the tamaskantruth website) that it is going to get peoples hackles up.
Glennz asked me some questions but when the answers where not satisfactory he/she (sorry dont know what sex you are) then went on to ask other committee members the same questions but in a more insistant manner. Unfortunately it was this that led some to believe that Glennz was not who they said they were and the curt replys led Glennz to feel attacked.
Out of anger Glennz then wrote to RPK, but this is all in the past now and Glennz has apologised so it should be laid to rest.

But it just shows how easily these things can get out of hand and how everyone needs to show a bit of diplomacy when discussing issues found on the tamaskantruth website.
I know a lot of people are passionate about its content and have a habit of treating people who believe it as idiots, but we have to remember that not everyone has been around long enough to know better, we should help these people by trying to provide them with as many facts as possible and not condemn them or treat them as spies.
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