Gum Tree Ad

Info about scams and false advertisements relating to the sale of Tamaskan Dogs (or fake "Tamaskans").
Locked
User avatar
JulieSmith
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2535
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:35 pm
Location: Manchester, UK

Gum Tree Ad

Post by JulieSmith » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:05 pm

Hi, I have just spotted this ad on the Edingburgh Gum Tree

http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/27/65273327.html

User avatar
Valravn
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1051
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 4:22 pm
Location: Ohio, USA

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Valravn » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:11 pm

I'd say that's a husky.
Image
"Hufflepuff’s symbol is a badger, which is fluffy, adorable, unassuming, and will rip your face off if you threaten something it cares about, which sums the House up quite neatly."

Korinne
コリン

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5182
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Sylvaen » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:49 pm

Could be a Tam... hard to say since he's lying down, would need to look at him standing / tail etc.
Edinburgh though... could be an Alba Tam... the face looks legit.
No paperwork though... wonder what that's about.
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
blufawn
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1758
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 1:10 pm
Location: Lincs, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by blufawn » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:58 pm

Could be true.
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
.............................................................
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

User avatar
Nino
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3106
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:13 am
Location: Aalborg - Denmark

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Nino » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:16 pm

Looks Tamaskanish I'd say..
but no paperwork, so probably not genuine since everyone but RPK sells with papers (as far as I know even Alba does?)
>> Nino <<
Image

User avatar
blufawn
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1758
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 1:10 pm
Location: Lincs, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by blufawn » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:17 pm

She was a bit slow / not very good at handing out paperwork have to admit, even though we did it for her.
But its possible the paperwork was left with the previous owners.
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
.............................................................
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

User avatar
JulieSmith
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2535
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:35 pm
Location: Manchester, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by JulieSmith » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:18 pm

the ad says he got the dog from someone else so the papers could have got lost. Poor dog looking for another home already.

User avatar
Nino
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3106
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:13 am
Location: Aalborg - Denmark

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Nino » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:36 pm

I wouldn't mind taking him
Looks beautiful :oops:
>> Nino <<
Image

User avatar
blufawn
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1758
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 1:10 pm
Location: Lincs, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by blufawn » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:38 pm

He does look nice doesnt he......bless, I hope he finds a good home.
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
.............................................................
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5182
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Sylvaen » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:40 pm

Wonder if he's 100% healthy... maybe he's monorchid, she did try to use him for breeding but without success. Also, at 10 months, maybe he started showing signs of epilepsy. He DOES look like a really nice boy... but there might be health issues under the surface. Bit of a gamble without knowing his background... if he's just monorchid, would still make a lovely family pet but if it's epilepsy then new owners need to be prepared and know what to expect.
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
claireyclaire
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1181
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 3:59 pm
Location: Wiltshire, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by claireyclaire » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:46 pm

Interesting that his colouring is described as red sable? Surely any Tam owner would know the correct name for the colours?
“You can take the dog out of the Wolf Pack, But you can't take the Wolf Pack out of the dog"

User avatar
Nino
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3106
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:13 am
Location: Aalborg - Denmark

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Nino » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:53 pm

Sylvaen wrote:Wonder if he's 100% healthy... maybe he's monorchid, she did try to use him for breeding but without success. Also, at 10 months, maybe he started showing signs of epilepsy. He DOES look like a really nice boy... but there might be health issues under the surface. Bit of a gamble without knowing his background... if he's just monorchid, would still make a lovely family pet but if it's epilepsy then new owners need to be prepared and know what to expect.
I'm not sure where you read that?

She says her Inuit bitch didn't take to him.
Doesn't that mean she didn't like him or is my English of on this point? :oops:
>> Nino <<
Image

User avatar
blufawn
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1758
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 1:10 pm
Location: Lincs, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by blufawn » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:56 pm

Yes, I think this means that they don't get along.
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
.............................................................
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5182
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Sylvaen » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:30 pm

ahhh... when I read: "i only recently bought him but my inuit bitch wont take to him so he has to go" It sounded like "take" as in: become pregnant. What you're saying also makes sense and that is probably the case after all, that they just don't get along. :)
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
Blustag
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2971
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 7:53 am
Location: UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Blustag » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:15 am

Just had a lengthy chat with this woman and she aquired the dog as an adult from someone up near Aberdeen which is where Liz (Alba) lives. The dog was aggressive with her children which is the reason she told me that she wanted to get rid of it. She has sold it to a local man but didnt take his details so we dont know where this dog is now. She was very pleasant and I told her that it probably wasnt a Tamaskan as they are not aggressive and also they dont come cheap and all come with papers. It certainly isnt a 'genuine' Tamaskan but could poss be an Alba Aatu Tamaskan as we dont know what Liz is mixing up there.

User avatar
HiTenshi16
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 4802
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 7:11 pm
Location: Princeton, TX US
Contact:

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by HiTenshi16 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:24 pm

Isn't the Hebridean wolfdogs place near there too? You think it could be possibly be from them?
Image

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5182
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Sylvaen » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:47 pm

Glad to hear the dog has gone to a new home, that's good news. Sad that she didn't take down the details of the person who bought him though... my mind will never understand that, simply because I couldn't imagine not knowing where any animal that once lived with me has ended up. But hopefully he has a good home now and maybe that person will stumble upon our forum one day. You never know. :)
HiTenshi16 wrote:Isn't the Hebridean wolfdogs place near there too? You think it could be possibly be from them?
Could be... but I think he lives on a fairly remote island... and this dog doesn't really look like the type that he produces. The face is very Tam-like, but the tail / body-structure reminds me of Alba-type Tams. I guess it's just going to be "one of those mysteries" in life. :)
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
blufawn
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1758
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 1:10 pm
Location: Lincs, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by blufawn » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:53 pm

Hebridean wolfdogs don't breed anymore, I don't think he has had a litter in the past 10months, but ill ask him.
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
.............................................................
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

User avatar
Blustag
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2971
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 7:53 am
Location: UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Blustag » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:45 pm

ALso he is in the farthermost island off North of Scotland on the West Coast and Liz and the person who purchased the 10 month old are on the East Coast miles away.

User avatar
HiTenshi16
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 4802
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 7:11 pm
Location: Princeton, TX US
Contact:

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by HiTenshi16 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:44 pm

I was only wondering because Ulric is only a few days shy of being 10 months old, I'm pretty sure Liz didn't have any other litter at the same time as Ulric (unless I'm mistaken). I could only think that if he is an Alba pup, then he could be Ulric's brother :( I wish she could of gotten the details of the new owner though.
Image

User avatar
JulieSmith
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2535
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:35 pm
Location: Manchester, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by JulieSmith » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:27 pm

HiTenshi16 wrote:I was only wondering because Ulric is only a few days shy of being 10 months old, I'm pretty sure Liz didn't have any other litter at the same time as Ulric (unless I'm mistaken). I could only think that if he is an Alba pup, then he could be Ulric's brother :( I wish she could of gotten the details of the new owner though.
You could always put an ad on gum tree to get him to contact you, worth a try.

User avatar
blufawn
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1758
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 1:10 pm
Location: Lincs, UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by blufawn » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:03 am

I spoke to Hebridean Wolfdogs and his last litter was well over a year ago. He said he is still in contact with all puppy purchasers and the pups were all chipped, so he is sure its not one of his.
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
.............................................................
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

User avatar
Blustag
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2971
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 7:53 am
Location: UK

Re: Gum Tree Ad

Post by Blustag » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:46 am

HiTenshi16 wrote:I was only wondering because Ulric is only a few days shy of being 10 months old, I'm pretty sure Liz didn't have any other litter at the same time as Ulric (unless I'm mistaken). I could only think that if he is an Alba pup, then he could be Ulric's brother :( I wish she could of gotten the details of the new owner though.
Thats interesting and I would have got the details but that is me. I was hoping that she would have had his contact but she did say that he said he would let her know how the dog was doing so I asked her to get him to contact us. I doubt this will happen but he may come through of his own accord possibly as he has no idea where the dog has come from and may like some info on the breed. One can only hope

Locked