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Tiantai wrote:It never cease to tickle my leg whenever I see a person trying to sell a crossbreed as a fox/dog hybrid, an obvious genetic impossibility!

Yeppers, definitely agree!

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Yes workboy it's me. And yes I would like to see pictures of Wiley. I wouldn't classify Wiley as something more than a lower low/no content either... I'm not an expert with wolfdogs here, others certainly are more than me, but I know some things about phenotyping as I'm part of a few groups and webs...

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Yarrow has become such an internet canine star!

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Workboy89, I saw in your profile picture your dog. What's his name? He looks cute. I did not want to offend you or anything. I just made this post with a bit of things I gathered from other people and from myself, as well as my knowledge of Ontario's laws. Yes, I admit, this post has been made with ...

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worboys89 I'm glad to hear your dog pleases you. I wasn't trying to discredit the dogs themselves, I love all animals and wouldn't want any of them to suffer. I rescue all kinds of dogs and cats and exotics. But some of the things the breeder has claimed just don't make sense (not only to me, I'm ta...

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His ears are indeed HUGE. I wonder what they will look like when he grows older.

It's interesting to see the differences between full siblings, Noque looks nothing like Yarrow (except the eyes IMO). Genetics are pretty interesting

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From what I saw, ANCDs come in solid black, solid white, black with GSD markings, brown/sable with markings (like Noque) and liver...

maybe there are other colors, but these are the ones I know

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Very pretty!! :D Question: are they "messy" or smelly pets? or relatively clean... Just wondering how much poop they produce (and the smell) as well as urine. It's the only thing putting me off at the moment, from perhaps having a pair one day in the future. Also, can they be housed with cats? or w...

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He's so adorable! Very curious, like the others, to see what he'll look like once adult

I'm SO curious! Enjoy your time with him

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Great idea Sylvaen. I'll gather as much information about him and his supposed wolfdogs and forward it to the authorities. We'll see how he will troll people around afterwards.

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Jodie actually seems wolfy! He could be a low content, at max a lower mid content. Is he? Same for Whitefang. So they do have wolf heritage? I've read on a french forum that Czechoslovakian wolfdogs were used in the breed too.

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Wow - I have been on here for a few months now, but never really read about this drama surrounding the Tamaskan world. It's quite something! I'm glad to hear it's all starting to get back in place now. Hopefully there will be agreements made about the back-to-back breeding and new bridges will be bu...

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Dogs should only be bred by people actually registered to kennels such as CKC, UKC, etc... any association. Those not registered shouldn't breed in my opinion (unless they are some geneticists that are planning on creating -with responsability- a new working dog breed (just like Ann created the Alas...

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Sad that he's doing a breed without even taking the genetics and registries in consideration... but his females Dawn and Phyra (the silver and the red one) are very pretty!

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This is all very informative, thank you all. I have a question, I've read on some forums that Tamaskans do have a bit of wolf heritage from a long ago. Is it true? can you tell me more about their heritage?

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I'm curious to know, I see the word Aatu written many times on here. What does it mean?

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This is so sad... I hope something can/will/has been done to stop them. Any news on the matter?

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Haha, that guy thought a while ago that I was a man, and then suddenly he changed his mind and started saying I'm from the opposite gender (which is true). He also claimed, without even knowing me, that I was 12 y/o ''loser as fuck'' (as he stated), and that I only wanted to get one of his dogs to b...

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Woops, seems I have forgotten to update this. :oops: Thanks for reminding me by commenting, Sylvaen! Finally, we have backed out with Elaine the marble and thus only have adopted Tipi the platinum fox. She's a beauty, she's pretty shy though, but she is not aggressive at all, and pretty gentle. We w...

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You're all right! I didn't think of that at the moment when I first saw them. I hope, nevertheless, that they get to good homes and that this RPK thing stops

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Tatzel, the ad is back on there again. There are two from him actually. He seems to have two (18 weeks old) pups left, the black "husky looking" one and the wolfy looking one. I wish something could be done. I wish these pups won't be used as breeders for his backyard breeding program. :( I have con...

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He reminds me of a coyote! Some may think he's a coydog

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My puppy Kody, trying to be a feline... :roll: didn't turn out so well for him, he was at the bottom of the 'pyramide' ! (The cat is Bisou, my smoke Foldex. Princess of the house). Kody is huge! At 2 1/2 months he was over 25 lbs, he's supposed to be a husky, but after looking at pictures of his par...

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Good luck with your -possible- future adoption! It's very nice of you to give a second chance to an unwanted pet.

keep us posted

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We are proud to welcome two lady foxes in our family!

Will publish pictures this weekend or the next one, depending on time

One of the vixens is a Platinum-colored one, named Tipi, and the other is a Marble-colored one named Elaine (pronounced A-lay-n).

Will keep this topic updated

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I stumbled across this ad on kijiji. It's about Tamaskan pups (non registered) being sold in Ontario. I'm no Tamaskan expert, but looking at the pups, it makes me doubt a bit that they're 100% pure Tamaskans. However, I'm not sure, and I have a friend who seeks advice because she's interested to get...

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Well, when they're domesticated, they're not wild anymore are they? :) No different from owning cats, ferrets or rabbits. The domestication process is cruel and stressful... Other domestic animals happened naturally, over the course of 100's of years... It wasn't forced upon them in the fastest way...

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Hawthorne, woops... you're right, I feel silly now :l

However, arctic foxes are alopex, and red foxes are vulpes, but, with artificial insemination, they can produce STERILE offsprings...

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Love the deer leg pic! Gorgeous boy

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Aren't coydogs the result of a coyote X dog mating though?
And coywolves, the result of coyote X wolf mating?

So your three loves are part coyote, part wolf and part dog?

I would LOVE to see pictures of them, if you don't mind sharing.

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That's what I thought, too, Sylvaen. However, it seems that only FEMALE ligers are fertile. Pretty much like Savannah cats (serval X cat). The F1 savannah females are fertile, but the males aren't (males have to be at least F3 in order to be fertile, for Savannahs). Notice the liliger's tiger-like s...

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I'm not talking abou the coywolf, or the coydog. Literally, COYDWOLF (a coyote X a dog X a wolf) I think it would be interesting to see such an animal. Looking forward to see your answers! :) PS: Did you hear about the Liliger? (female liger (which is tiger X lion) X lion) I have a picture somewhere...

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Welcome here!

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Welcome here

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Welcome, and beautiful dog

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Welcome here

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Welcome!

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They are selling them for $8000 to the USA. Only because they have to pay for the WHOLE shipping fee and the animal's spaying, vaccination etc. To other places like Europe, the place is only $500 because they don't have to go through such a trouble to be able to ship them legally. Where did you get ...

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I've never understood why humans have to interfere with the wonders of nature... If a fox were to be domesticated it would happen over time not while they were stuck in cages so they could barely move... How scared the aggressive foxes must have been is unthinkable... The aggressive foxes are actua...

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Off topic, I always wondered if it were possible to successfully breed an American grey fox with a red fox.

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Wow, beautiful animals indeed! And thank you for the information, I knew what they were but didn't know the details, especially those that our Eastern coyotes as coywolves! Nice to know. Explains their bigger size, too. I agree, let's stop talking about it, to protect the safety of these animals and...

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Tiantai, you just said it all! His dogs aren't ugly, they're cute. They look like malamutes or just mutts, however, he should STOP claiming they're wolfdogs. Wolfdogs are majestic, and have that wild beauty of the wolf; which these guys do NOT have. Coywolves? Are you sure you didn't want to sayc co...

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I really don't like that mentality - if you don't test, how do you know?! It's frustrating when people think that because they are 'wolfdogs' they are automatically immune or something... yes, purebred dogs DO have a higher risk of inherited genetic diseases (in general) but captive-bred wolves / w...

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Let's hope for it, Czertice! I'd love a Georgian white (white with black spots) fox, and only the Institute has them (bleh). Also, an extra info, if any of you is interested to know. The Russian Institute also genetically domesticated MINKS (with many different colors, who are tamer than a pet ferre...

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After watching videos of Russian domestic foxes, I can't find any difference between their general behavior and my (not genetically) domestic foxes. The only ''advantage'' to have a Russian domestic is that they're genetically tame; if you lose them in the wild they won't become skittish and aggress...

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Hahaha, I laughed at the part where it is legal to keep an elephant but not a little fox... :D but it's an actual good reason; if the domestic foxes were to escape and breed with the wild ones, they would destroy their red coat genetics by bringing in the ''domestic colors'' genes, etc. and tamer be...

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Here are some red colored Russian domestic foxes. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_f98opUNuVXc/TFG7cwKZrTI/AAAAAAAARNY/lZtxjzBeyuw/s1600/Domesticated+fox+cubs.jpg http://www.google.ca/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=d&biw=1821&bih=857&tbm=isch&tbnid=MhJLVvxp8_t31M:&imgrefurl=http://www.fic.nih.gov/NEWS/GLOBALHE...

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Nanook is so beautiful! I had a dog once, a husky looking pretty similar to him, named Anook

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Ahh!! Me too! Just so gorgeous.

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Tiantai, there are actually so many breeders out there! I have an inventory posted on here http://www.thefriendlyfox.webs.com/apps/forums (it's in the fox forum)

Here's Kai when he was 2-3 months old!

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