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Re: HIPS

Post by HiTenshi16 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:06 pm

Can't wait to see Winnie puppies :3
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Post by AZDehlin » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:19 pm

This is Great News :)

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Post by TerriHolt » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:06 pm

Ace!!! :P
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Re: HIPS

Post by Katlin » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:57 am

Fantastic! I'm hoping for a Gerri pup eventually.
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Re: HIPS

Post by Hawthorne » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:32 am

HI!
I finally figured this out with the help of a little birdie!

Here is a special paper from the BVA on exactly how they score hips. I think it's fascinating--technical--but fascinating!

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1Dsfn ... YxMWE3NDJj
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Re: HIPS

Post by Blustag » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:33 pm

I couldnt open this file... can anyone else?

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Re: HIPS

Post by Dozer » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:38 pm

could not open it either....

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Post by AZDehlin » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:35 pm

Worked for me, you need a google account to download. I could email it if anyone is interested.

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Re: HIPS

Post by Nino » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:04 pm

Blustag wrote:I couldnt open this file... can anyone else?
http://www.4shared.com/office/NKXYDHbi/ ... Paper.html?

at least for the next weeks you should be able to download it through there :)
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Re: HIPS

Post by Hawthorne » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:51 pm

Click the link, click download in the upper right corner, then click download anyway. Does this still not work? The document is a .pdf. 12 pages.

I can email it to folks too, if you wish.
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Re: HIPS

Post by arianwenarie » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:49 am

Hawthorne wrote:Click the link, click download in the upper right corner, then click download anyway. Does this still not work? The document is a .pdf. 12 pages.
Worked for me and I wasn't signed into my google account. :) Thanks for uploading this!

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Post by Hawthorne » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:20 pm

Oh, gosh--the original file size is gigantic at over 100MB... I scaled it down to 17...so I can email to people now if they wish. Assuming you can receive a 17MB attachment.
So much for helping. LOL
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Re: HIPS

Post by blufawn » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:06 am

Both Ollie and Hunters hips have just come back recently. Both are a 0 :D
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Re: HIPS

Post by HiTenshi16 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:39 pm

That is awesome :D
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Post by Katlin » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:36 pm

Wow congrats!
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Re: HIPS

Post by Tiantai » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:55 pm

blufawn wrote:Both Ollie and Hunters hips have just come back recently. Both are a 0 :D
Awesome! 8-)
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Re: HIPS

Post by Tarheel » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:21 am

After waiting 7 long months from the date of the x-ray til the day the results of Tarheel Corolla Dune (Kana) came back. Kana has passed her BVA hip scoring.
Unfortunately my local vet will not be sumbitting anymore x-rays to the BVA. I am currently working with another vet near my work and they appear happy to help me out.
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Post by HiTenshi16 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:28 am

Congratulations for Kana! A shame you had to go through so much trouble with your vet.
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Post by Rahne » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:56 am

Tarheel wrote:After waiting 7 long months from the date of the x-ray til the day the results of Tarheel Corolla Dune (Kana) came back. Kana has passed her BVA hip scoring.
Unfortunately my local vet will not be sumbitting anymore x-rays to the BVA. I am currently working with another vet near my work and they appear happy to help me out.
Yay! Now you can finally make the final plans for Kana and Jaeger! :D
Too bad about the problems with your vet.. hopefully the other vet can help you out next time.

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Re: HIPS

Post by AZDehlin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:58 am

SO Excited to hear both Kana and Jaeger Hips have been cleared... I so want a female from this mating :)

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Re: HIPS

Post by blufawn » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:53 pm

Congrats xx sorry to hear you had so much trouble
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
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Re: HIPS

Post by Blustag » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:14 pm

Congratulations John. Dont forget to send copies to TDR... it dosnt usually take so long to get the results so dont know what went
wrong there. Several years ago when I had one of the dogs done at a vets I dont usually use I waited for a couple of months
for the result. When it didnt come I phoned the vet and he couldnt help so I phoned the BVA. They told me that they hadnt
received any xray for my dog so I went along to the vets and low and behold the xray was still there!!!!! I dont use that vet anymore :lol: His excuse was he asked his 'son' to post it for him :roll:

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Re: HIPS

Post by Misaya » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:37 pm

Congratulations John, that is really good news :)
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Post by Tiantai » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:24 pm

Tarheel wrote:After waiting 7 long months from the date of the x-ray til the day the results of Tarheel Corolla Dune (Kana) came back. Kana has passed her BVA hip scoring.
Unfortunately my local vet will not be sumbitting anymore x-rays to the BVA. I am currently working with another vet near my work and they appear happy to help me out.
:o Awesome John! :D Sad to hear that your local vet is no longer submitting results to the BVA but I'm glad to see that one of my top favourite Tamaskan dogs from Blaze and Tundra has passed her hip scoring. Please keep me updated on the future status for Kana and her husband Jaeger, I look forward to hearing about the duo's role in producing another generation of American-born Tamaskans :D I won't spill too much informations on facebook this time like I did with the Yellowstone litter ;)
Blustag wrote:Congratulations John. Dont forget to send copies to TDR... it doesn't usually take so long to get the results so dont know what went wrong there. Several years ago when I had one of the dogs done at a vets I dont usually use I waited for a couple of months for the result. When it didnt come I phoned the vet and he couldnt help so I phoned the BVA. They told me that they hadn't received any xray for my dog so I went along to the vets and low and behold the xray was still there!!!!! I don't use that vet anymore :lol: His excuse was he asked his 'son' to post it for him :roll:
Wow, just wow :?
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Re: HIPS

Post by JulieSmith » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:52 pm

That is great news, shame about the vets, but I am sure you will find another.

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Post by Sylvaen » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:08 pm

Glad to hear she passed... congrats! :D

By the way, I just heard that as of 01/01/2012, the new BVA rules are that all dogs have to be fully anesthetized (under heavy general sedation with intubation etc) - not just mildly sedated. Can anyone shed some more light on this? The owner of the dog I want to breed with Vixen (during her next heat!!) is very concerned about full anesthesia due to the risky procedure - I recommended that she finds another vet (ASAP!!) but apparently every vet must sign the BVA form to confirm that the dog has been fully sedated (and intubated). Help!? :?

EDIT: I just emailed the BVA for more info... will post a reply here once I know more.
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Post by Rahne » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:36 pm

Sylvaen wrote:Glad to hear she passed... congrats! :D

By the way, I just heard that as of 01/01/2012, the new BVA rules are that all dogs have to be fully anesthetized (under heavy general sedation with intubation etc) - not just mildly sedated. Can anyone shed some more light on this? The owner of the dog I want to breed with Vixen (during her next heat!!) is very concerned about full anesthesia due to the risky procedure - I recommended that she finds another vet (ASAP!!) but apparently every vet must sign the BVA form to confirm that the dog has been fully sedated (and intubated). Help!? :?

EDIT: I just emailed the BVA for more info... will post a reply here once I know more.
If there isn't a way around this then I will NOT be scoring with BVA again.. No way I'm going to put my dog under full anesthetics just for some hip X-rays.

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Post by blufawn » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:02 pm

I have not heard this rule and I am sure Lynn had both Ollie and Hunter hips scored after this date with just a mild sedative...
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And treat those two impostors just the same;
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Post by Nino » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:07 pm

Rahne wrote:
Sylvaen wrote:Glad to hear she passed... congrats! :D

By the way, I just heard that as of 01/01/2012, the new BVA rules are that all dogs have to be fully anesthetized (under heavy general sedation with intubation etc) - not just mildly sedated. Can anyone shed some more light on this? The owner of the dog I want to breed with Vixen (during her next heat!!) is very concerned about full anesthesia due to the risky procedure - I recommended that she finds another vet (ASAP!!) but apparently every vet must sign the BVA form to confirm that the dog has been fully sedated (and intubated). Help!? :?

EDIT: I just emailed the BVA for more info... will post a reply here once I know more.
If there isn't a way around this then I will NOT be scoring with BVA again.. No way I'm going to put my dog under full anesthetics just for some hip X-rays.
Same here..
I don't care, I will use another place for scoring.. :?
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Post by Sylvaen » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:25 pm

Dear Debby

Nothing has changed in point 3.1 of the Procedure Notes for the past 10 years except the date of the guide from 1988 to 1999.

It has always said:

“(a). it is NECESSARY to employ general anaesthesia, narcosis or deep sedation to enable only mechanical (ie non-manual) restraint for the positioning of the animal;”

When radiographs come in we have no way of telling whether they have been done under sedation or under a general anaesthetic. Our advice would be to be guided by what the Vet advises.

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It sounds to me like the vet in Germany is reading too much into the rules... it seems that mild sedation is sufficient after all.
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Post by Rahne » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:38 pm

Sylvaen wrote:
Dear Debby

Nothing has changed in point 3.1 of the Procedure Notes for the past 10 years except the date of the guide from 1988 to 1999.

It has always said:

“(a). it is NECESSARY to employ general anaesthesia, narcosis or deep sedation to enable only mechanical (ie non-manual) restraint for the positioning of the animal;”

When radiographs come in we have no way of telling whether they have been done under sedation or under a general anaesthetic. Our advice would be to be guided by what the Vet advises.

Kind regards

Sandra
It sounds to me like the vet in Germany is reading too much into the rules... it seems that mild sedation is sufficient after all.
Great ;)

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Post by Sylvaen » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:47 pm

Now I just hope the vet in Germany will do the procedure with mild sedation, or that another local vet can be found who will...
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Post by Blustag » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:08 pm

My new vet has just done 3 of my dogs for me with just a sedation. It cost me only £80 per dog with £50 extra to the BVA.
Not to mention much kinder to the dog.
My previous vet that I had temporarily at the last house charge over £200 per dog and would only do the xray with anesthetic.
Just goes to show you need to shop around ;)

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Re: HIPS

Post by Gabriele58 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:24 pm

That's wonderful news about Kana's hip score! It would be a dream come true for me to have a female pup from Jaeger x Kana. The name we have picked out for a girl is Tikaana. I didn't realize until a couple of days ago how close Tikaana is to Kana 'Ti :)

I'm really hoping my vet will be good with the hip scoring. I'll bet the stress is high waiting for results.

Congratulations again on Kana's hip score. She passed the test! :D
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Post by TerriHolt » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:03 pm

Sylvaen wrote:Now I just hope the vet in Germany will do the procedure with mild sedation, or that another local vet can be found who will...
that is what i'm looking for because if not it will mean leaving sam to recover in a small cage which he is scared to the point of pooping and won't go with strangers so the stress to get his hips done would be too high for him for me to be happy getting it done... but the problem with waiting to find a vet is, he isn't getting any younger...
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Post by blufawn » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:27 am

Terri you may have to come visit us on your hols and use our vet ;)
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Post by TerriHolt » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:33 am

blufawn wrote:Terri you may have to come visit us on your hols and use our vet ;)
he he he... just might do that...
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Re: HIPS

Post by Hawthorne » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:26 pm

Tarheel wrote:After waiting 7 long months from the date of the x-ray til the day the results of Tarheel Corolla Dune (Kana) came back. Kana has passed her BVA hip scoring.
Unfortunately my local vet will not be sumbitting anymore x-rays to the BVA. I am currently working with another vet near my work and they appear happy to help me out.
Yay!!! Congratulations John & Tina & Kana (and of course Jeager -- woo woo!) That's three OBX pups with passing hips! :D
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Post by AZDehlin » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:35 pm

Gabriele58 wrote:That's wonderful news about Kana's hip score! It would be a dream come true for me to have a female pup from Jaeger x Kana. The name we have picked out for a girl is Tikaana. I didn't realize until a couple of days ago how close Tikaana is to Kana 'Ti :)
Your pup Loki's sisters name is Tika. So super close to what you will name your female.

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Re: HIPS

Post by Gaby » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:02 am

A bump in an old topic.... But...

I've got Mila's hipscore and elbows, BVA 4 (HDA) and elbows are fine!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Post by HiTenshi16 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:05 am

Brilliant news :D
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Post by Katlin » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:19 am

Awesome!!!!
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Post by wolfwoman » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:58 am

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Re: HIPS

Post by Misaya » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:38 pm

Great news :)
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Re: HIPS

Post by akaye531 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:26 pm

Exciting news for Mila! Congrats :)

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Re: HIPS

Post by Lynwae » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:55 pm

Ayla is BVA 14 :)

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Re: HIPS

Post by balto13 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:00 pm

congrats! :)

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Re: HIPS

Post by Katlin » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:32 pm

Yay!
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Re: HIPS

Post by HiTenshi16 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:22 pm

Congrats!
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Re: HIPS

Post by Ryphen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:15 am

Congrats.

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