Heart murmur

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:53 pm

Hi everyone,
As many of you know I got my new pup on Tuesday (Blustag Rainbow from the Heidi/Bodie litter)
I have just returned from the vet. She has a significant heart murmur. I have been told this is a genetic problem passed down from parents or grandparents. I was advised to let everyone know that has her litter mates, so they can be checked as well.
Am a bit too upset to say any more, but wanted to let everyone concerned know

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:59 pm

Sally wrote:Hi everyone,
As many of you know I got my new pup on Tuesday (Blustag Rainbow from the Heidi/Bodie litter)
I have just returned from the vet. She has a significant heart murmur. I have been told this is a genetic problem passed down from parents or grandparents. I was advised to let everyone know that has her litter mates, so they can be checked as well.
Am a bit too upset to say any more, but wanted to let everyone concerned know

What a terrible and shocking news.

I wish you all the best for your puppy and I hope the litter mates are fine. My thoughts are with you and your family!

JulieSmith · Post by **JulieSmith** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:03 pm

Sorry to hear your news, I hope all the other pups are OK. I hope your pup will be OK.

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:06 pm

Did your vet told you to have any additional research done, like an ultrasound??
I've heard that sometimes an heart murmur in very young pups can be innocent and disappears when they get older so I'm curious to know what your vet advised you to do except inform the other owners?

I hope that your puppy is fine!

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:09 pm

I was told it is quite significant and she could suffer from heart failure, an inability to run for long periods, coughing etc. Yes ultrasounds were advised. I am in shock right now

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:15 pm

Sally wrote:I was told it is quite significant and she could suffer from heart failure, an inability to run for long periods, coughing etc. Yes ultrasounds were advised. I am in shock right now

That doesn't sound good

I really hope it isn't as bad as it sounds right now! Can imagine you are in shock.. will keep my fingers crossed for your little girl.

KRHert · Post by **KRHert** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:52 pm

I have a girl from this litter and we already had a vet appointment scheduled for her for next Tuesday so we'll be sure to get that checked. Shouldn't this have shown up when they went to the vet a week ago? I hope it doesn't effect her too much

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:00 am

I don't understand how it was missed by the vet who checked her in the UK and gave her the all clear to fly.
She cannot be bred from, and any anesthetic she may need could be very dangerous for her. I spent months researching this breed, health was a big priority. The reason I didn't get another German shepherd was because of all the bad press they get these days. Ha what an irony, two of my shepherds lived to sixteen with never a sick day

YouTube · Post by **Sylvaen** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:10 am

Sorry to hear the bad news - definitely monitor the situation and keep us posted. As Rahne said, it IS possible that it is something that might just go away on its own (with age) so I wouldn't panic too much at this stage, certainly not without consulting another local vet for a second opinion... and then visiting a canine heart specialist if necessary. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you and your pup.

Kootenaywolf · Post by **Kootenaywolf** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:23 am

Keep your hope up - I had a very similar situation with my Bengal cat. One vet diagnosed him as having a (fatal) heart condition (HCM), said he couldn't be anesthetized to get neutered or anything else, and only had a year or less to live. I freaked out obviously, but eventually got another vet's opinion and he said my cat was completely healthy. He neutered him with NO issues and now more than a year later, my cat is healthy as a horse and definitely DOESN'T have HCM!

I know exactly how you feel. But maybe get another opinion, or, like others have said, I've definitely heard of dogs outgrowing heart murmurs with age.

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:31 am

Well I did ask if she could outgrow it. He said no, it was too significant. I will be seeing a cardiologist, so will keep you all informed. I love her to bits and already have a bond with her, but I did not spend over $3000 just to be stuck with a sick dog, who is already costing me a fortune in vet bills

Canadia · Post by **Canadia** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:12 am

This is so upsetting Sally - please do keep us updated!

Post by **Katlin** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:55 am

Sally wrote:Well I did ask if she could outgrow it. He said no, it was too significant. I will be seeing a cardiologist, so will keep you all informed. I love her to bits and already have a bond with her, but I did not spend over $3000 just to be stuck with a sick dog, who is already costing me a fortune in vet bills

Oh no!!! I'm so sorry! Did the vet mention the grade? Certain grades can potentially disappear but it's uncommon if not rare. Let us know what you decide :/

nivenj · Post by **nivenj** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:55 am

Sally wrote:I don't understand how it was missed by the vet who checked her in the UK and gave her the all clear to fly.

Thoughts are with you and your little one at this time Sally. I was going to say, is there any chance of getting a second opinion? Unless the vet has done some level of ultrasound or echocardiogram I really question his statement on it being a genetic issue and the severity of the condition. Vets, like doctors, are not infallible. Is it an option?

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:02 am

Like I said I will be seeing a cardiologist who will perform an ultrasound. I am well aware that mistakes can be made but this was a very thorough exam and a lot of time was spent listening to her and discussing things with me. I would like to hope that this was a mistake, but you can imagine how shocked I was to be told this after only having her a few days.
I am not trying to scare people by suggesting genetic problems, but this was the vets advice. I also don't think it is in anyone's interest to keep this quiet.
I, more than anyone hope this is a mistake, so will keep you all informed

Booma · Post by **Booma** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:31 am

Good luck with the specialist. I really hope your first vet was wrong/ it's something that will go away as she grows.

MelB · Post by **MelB** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:35 am

I'm so sorry to hear this. I also don't understand how this could have been missed. I assume you know your vet well having had dogs previously and trust their judgement. I fully understand that you are in shock and I really hope that the cardiologist can give a bit more hope to the situation.
Is your pup insured?

blufawn · Post by **blufawn** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:37 am

I just dont understand this, I was at the vets with the pups when they all had their hearts listened to by our vet for their health check and flight paperwork and he didnt mention a thing about a heart murmur in any of them....
I do hope that a 2nd opinion will reveal a false alarm. We have had heart murmurs in young pups before that have disappeared within 2 weeks, we have NEVER had a heart murmur that has lasted any longer in any dogs in the breed.

AZDehlin · Post by **AZDehlin** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:44 am

What terrible news... I hope your vet misdiagnosed and the cardiologist gives your pup the all clear. Give us and update when you know please.

Blustag · Post by **Blustag** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:28 am

I have just found this topic and have emailed you privately.

Several years ago I purchased a Malamute from a reputable breeder and upon taking it to my vet on my return home (he came
from abroad) he was found to have a murmour. I immediately contacted the breeder privately. I did not announce it anywhere
and did not tell any of the other breeders. I had a second opinion and in a few weeks time the murmour had vanished. I was
glad that I had not informed anyone in the first instance because I wouldnt have wanted to have caused any embarrasement.

Puppies can sometimes have a murmour when young which disappears. I have also spoken with the vet this morning who
did the Private Health Certificates for everyone's puppy that went abroad and he assures me that there was no problems with
any of them. Not only was I present at the time but Jenny was too, and each puppy was thoroughly gone over. I was also
told that murmours in young puppies can be there one minute and gone the next. I have mailed you and also asked you to
provide me with a full vet's report which I will then pass to my vet for discussion. Im sorry you felt the need to make this
very public without taking a second opinion and hope that the new owners with the siblings dont panic. Im assuming that
you did get your puppy Insured.

Gabriele58 · Post by **Gabriele58** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:19 pm

I'm so sorry to hear this, Sally. I hope and pray that it is a judgement error on the part of the vet. I know it's not the same thing, but my mom was told her cat had a significant murmur as well and would not likely live a lot of years. Well, she's getting up there in years now and seems absolutely fine.
Of course I'm a bit worried about her brother, but I''ll wait to see what the vet has to say when I take him in.
I know it's easier said than done, but please try to stay optimistic. The cardiologist may very well give you more reassuring news. I'll keep you in my prayers.

susann · Post by **susann** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:10 pm

I am so sorry to hear this !!!!

A few years ago we had pups and one of them had heart murmur... a new vet examination 14 days later... absolutely nothing! No heart murmur... !!
He is, to day, a strong beautiful dog and no problem with his heart.

I hope it's the same way with your pup...

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:48 pm

I did not share this to cause anyone embarrassment, or to panic people.
I hope people can appreciate my shock and upset at this news, but maybe I should have just kept it to myself.
I thought this was a place to share experiences and problems, and to get advice, perhaps I was mistaken.
To those of you who made kind comments, thank you

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:58 pm

Blustag wrote: I was
glad that I had not informed anyone in the first instance because I wouldnt have wanted to have caused any embarrasement.

Do you think Sally is embarrassing you with this post? Why would it be embarrassing? She can't do anything about it, she heard this news from the vet and I understand she was so shocked that the first thing she wanted is to let people know who have brothers and sisters from the dog, so they know that the vet has to put attention to this when they are examined. Besides that people can support you by sharing their experiences or giving tips, like taking a second opinion. So I understand it really well that she posted this at the forum, and it shouldn't be a secret too. Why? Our top goal is to create a healthy breed, if something happens like this it is okay to know. If the heart murmur does vanish, she can update the topic, change the topic title and everything is well. I was really shocked too, when after my other sick dog with HD Mila didn't seem healthy too. And I got a lot of information from people who helped me and send me personal messages which I appreciated a lot.

Edit: When I clicked on 'send message' I didn't see the post Sally already posted. Seemed we where thinking the same.

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:02 pm

Sally wrote:I did not share this to cause anyone embarrassment, or to panic people.
I hope people can appreciate my shock and upset at this news, but maybe I should have just kept it to myself.
I thought this was a place to share experiences and problems, and to get advice, perhaps I was mistaken.
To those of you who made kind comments, thank you

I my opinion, you where certainly not mistaken and I would have done the same thing too.

susann · Post by **susann** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:07 pm

Sally wrote:I did not share this to cause anyone embarrassment, or to panic people.
I hope people can appreciate my shock and upset at this news, but maybe I should have just kept it to myself.
I thought this was a place to share experiences and problems, and to get advice, perhaps I was mistaken.
To those of you who made kind comments, thank you

Everyone react differently... I would have reacted just like you... It is a forum for thoughts, advise and experiences.... and not only the "good" things.. but also the thoughts and things that worries us... that's the purpose with a forum.

Post by **Katlin** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:10 pm

susann wrote:
Sally wrote:I did not share this to cause anyone embarrassment, or to panic people.
I hope people can appreciate my shock and upset at this news, but maybe I should have just kept it to myself.
I thought this was a place to share experiences and problems, and to get advice, perhaps I was mistaken.
To those of you who made kind comments, thank you
Everyone react differently... I would have reacted just like you... It is a forum for thoughts, advise and experiences.... and not only the "good" things.. but also the thoughts and things that worries us... that's the purpose with a forum.

Agreed, I would have posted too...

nivenj · Post by **nivenj** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:15 pm

Sally wrote:I did not share this to cause anyone embarrassment, or to panic people.
I hope people can appreciate my shock and upset at this news, but maybe I should have just kept it to myself.
I thought this was a place to share experiences and problems, and to get advice, perhaps I was mistaken.
To those of you who made kind comments, thank you

I really dont think anyone would accuse you of intentionally trying to cause embarrassment or to panic people, and its very difficult to think through the these things when your upset. You asbolutely shouldnt have kept it to yourself, but I do think contacting the breeder directly first to talk it through should have been your first course of action. If indeed there turns out to be a situation that warrants the other pups in the litter to examined, the breeder will have the contact details of all those affected, not all of them probably read these forums. From what ive read, All of the Breeders on this forum are responsible and would be as concerned as you are at the news so they would have been able to offer support and advice and maybe even help alleave some of your fears. As I said, I think the vet has been a little irresponsible in his advice to you as there has been no conclusive tests yet to say exactly what the issue is, its severity or what actions need to be taken, so his advice to warn the owners of the rest of the litter seems a bit pre-emptive and could panic people unnecessarily.

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:26 pm

nivenj wrote:
Sally wrote:I did not share this to cause anyone embarrassment, or to panic people.
I hope people can appreciate my shock and upset at this news, but maybe I should have just kept it to myself.
I thought this was a place to share experiences and problems, and to get advice, perhaps I was mistaken.
To those of you who made kind comments, thank you
I really dont think anyone would accuse you of intentionally trying to cause embarrassment or to panic people, and its very difficult to think through the these things when your upset. You asbolutely shouldnt have kept it to yourself, but I do think contacting the breeder directly first to talk it through should have been your first course of action. If indeed there turns out to be a situation that warrants the other pups in the litter to examined, the breeder will have the contact details of all those affected, not all of them probably read these forums. From what ive read, All of the Breeders on this forum are responsible and would be as concerned as you are at the news so they would have been able to offer support and advice and maybe even help alleave some of your fears. As I said, I think the vet has been a little irresponsible in his advice to you as there has been no conclusive tests yet to say exactly what the issue is, its severity or what actions need to be taken, so his advice to warn the owners of the rest of the litter seems a bit pre-emptive and could panic people unnecessarily.

Yes, contacting the breeder too should be the first course of action. Or send a message with a link to this topic. I do have to say I agree on that, but I can understand that if you hear this news from your vet, is so shocking that you might not think straight and post a topic on this forum.

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:20 pm

I did contact my breeder straight away.
I don't think I suggested that Lynn was at fault, it was the vet who examined the puppy in the UK that I was questioning.
I think the only person embarrassed yesterday was me. I was discussing the breed with my vet and telling him there were very few health issues ( that being one of the reasons we chose this breed). When he told me my dog wasn't very healthy, that made me feel pretty embarrassed, along with many other emotions.
Hopefully I will get good news that I can share soon. If that is the case I will be sure to apologize to those who have been panicked or offended.
I will also hopefully post some photos soon(computer not working!).Despite all that has been said, she is gorgeous

Blustag · Post by **Blustag** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:49 pm

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion of course. Yes Sally did contact me but didnt wait for a reply. Dont forget we are
8 hours ahead here in UK! Yes of course I would have contacted all the new owners of that litter and advised them to have
their puppies checked if they hadnt already. I am merely saying that I would have handled things differently and not gone to
the forum but rather discussed it in private with my breeder as I did with the Malamute breeder mentioned previously. I hadnt
even opened my mail this morning before I was told about it.... and that it was on the forum already!

MelB · Post by **MelB** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:09 am

I really don't see anything wrong with Sally posting about her dog's health check.
As for checking with a breeder first, that is a courtesy, of course, but professional medical opinion is more important.
As I read it, the opinion seemed to be to let owners of siblings know asap.

Hopefully, the cardiologist can give the all clear.

Post by **TerriHolt** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:20 pm

MelB wrote:but professional medical opinion is more important.
As I read it, the opinion seemed to be to let owners of siblings know asap.
.

i also don't see the problem with posting hear on the final analysis but i would have waited and gotten a 2nd opinion from a vet and if that conflicted, a 3rd to get the best 2 our of 3 and then discussed with the breeder, even if it was just waiting for a reply... then posted for advice and consolation from other members...

but maybe that is because i'm more of a private person and don't like to un-necessarily post problems to the world unless i have to

but like was said, everybody reacts different under different situations...

MelB · Post by **MelB** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:48 pm

TerriHolt wrote:
MelB wrote:but professional medical opinion is more important.
As I read it, the opinion seemed to be to let owners of siblings know asap.
.

i also don't see the problem with posting hear on the final analysis but i would have waited and gotten a 2nd opinion from a vet and if that conflicted, a 3rd to get the best 2 our of 3 and then discussed with the breeder, even if it was just waiting for a reply... then posted for advice and consolation from other members...

but maybe that is because i'm more of a private person and don't like to un-necessarily post problems to the world unless i have to but like was said, everybody reacts different under different situations...

That's fair enough, we all react differently but as for it being unnecessary I really don't see that point. The forum is surely for support in ALL circumstances, good & bad? Also, bear in mind that it's much easier to miss hearing something, like a heart murmur, than it is to hear something that isn't there. I know this from personal experience with my own heart murmur. It could (hopefully) still be a flash in a pan sort of thing - here one minute and gone the next so it could be reassuring to have replies saying that others have experienced this sort of transient murmur. But why should someone be made to feel they have to suffer a worry on their own in the meantime?

Having been there, done that - 1st vet opinion and seeing for myself, getting a second opinion anyway before telling the breeder - I can tell you it's no picnic, it's incredibly upsetting and stressful. If we can offer support during this time then surely we should, even if it (hopefully) turns out to be a false alarm.

Post by **TerriHolt** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:46 pm

MelB wrote:but as for it being unnecessary I really don't see that point

well, to me, posting would seem unnecessary until i had 2nd and if needed 3rd opinions because i would personally feel bad for causing worry where there no need be any...

that is why i said everyone reacts differently... i would have contacted breeder, no matter the breed, so the breeder can contact those who own litter mates and i would have waited to see a specialist and get results back... but others would not...

all i was saying is that i also don't see the problem with posting hear... then explained i would have held off a little while... no biggie... i also never said nor implied

they have to suffer a worry on their own in the meantime

i would have support of friends, family and hopefully the breeder... i didn't realize she was alone in this and had no one to offer support so i'm sorry for that...

MelB · Post by **MelB** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:56 pm

TerriHolt wrote:i would have support of friends, family and hopefully the breeder... i didn't realize she was alone in this and had no one to offer support so i'm sorry for that...

I don't know her either, I assume she has this support too but looking at her number of posts (i.e quite new to forum) and that she's just got her first Tam I thought we, as a community of Tam owners/enthusiasts, should be more welcoming and supportive instead of criticising is all.

Post by **TerriHolt** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:03 pm

MelB wrote:
TerriHolt wrote:i would have support of friends, family and hopefully the breeder... i didn't realize she was alone in this and had no one to offer support so i'm sorry for that...
I don't know her either, I assume she has this support too but looking at her number of posts (i.e quite new to forum) and that she's just got her first Tam I thought we, as a community of Tam owners/enthusiasts, should be more welcoming and supportive instead of criticising is all.

oh... my bad

... thought you had been pm'ing or something and...

well... never mind... sorry

i just hope it turns out to be a passing thing and it rights it's self in a few weeks...

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:21 pm

I think some people are missing the point here. I collected my pup on Tuesday, on Friday I am told she has health issues(this is already costing me an extra $700 dollars, with insurance) After all my excitement, can you imagine my shock and upset. This is now my dog, she does not belong to the breeder. I am so far from the UK, what could she possibly do anyway.
I fail to see how my problems are upsetting anyone else, it only affects me and my dog. I am very far from home, so all my family are back in Scotland. I haven't told any friends in Canada because I found it a bit embarrassing, after all my excitement about getting my pup. Most people I know thought it was quite extreme having a pup shipped in the first place and not buying locally.
I think I have already said I was mistaken in posting here, when some of you find it upsetting or offensive.
I am very new to the forum and was hoping to share with like minded people ( I think the one thing we all share is a love for our dogs and responsibility for their welfare)
Whatever thoughts people have about me, you can be assured that my puppy is getting the best care I can give her.

Gabriele58 · Post by **Gabriele58** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:36 pm

Sally, I can't even imagine how devastating the news must have been for you. I hope with all my heart that the cardiologist gives her the all clear. It's hard to know where to turn in a case like this, especially if you don't have family with you. I think it would be really difficult for me to tell people I know as well because I got the same kind of attitude from people about paying so much for a dog you haven't even seen.
I think there are several people here on the forum who will be supportive to you in any way they can be. I don't have any prior experience with Tams, but I'm always here to talk to, even if there is nothing I can do to help. Since my little guy is a brother to your little girl, I especially want to see her healthy and strong.
Feel free to send me a private message if you just need to talk.
Take care, Gabby

YouTube · Post by **Sylvaen** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:27 pm

Sally wrote:I think I have already said I was mistaken in posting here, when some of you find it upsetting or offensive.
I am very new to the forum and was hoping to share with like minded people ( I think the one thing we all share is a love for our dogs and responsibility for their welfare)
Whatever thoughts people have about me, you can be assured that my puppy is getting the best care I can give her.

Please don't ever feel ashamed or embarrassed to post your concerns here on the forum, especially when it relates to the health of Tamaskan Dogs - that's why the forum exists... so that we can all learn from one another and share our experiences / offer advice and suggestions, etc. I am still hoping that your vet was wrong, somehow, and that everything will be OK. Please keep us posted!!

Post by **Nino** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:34 pm

Sally wrote:I think I have already said I was mistaken in posting here, when some of you find it upsetting or offensive.
I am very new to the forum and was hoping to share with like minded people ( I think the one thing we all share is a love for our dogs and responsibility for their welfare)
Whatever thoughts people have about me, you can be assured that my puppy is getting the best care I can give her.

Please don't feel that you were mistaken, I totally see where you are coming from!
I would probably have done exactly as you, as this is the place where we can talk to people that understand all or most of the things we have or will go through with our dogs..

I really cross my fingers that this is a thing that is only temporary, as it would be just terrible if not, my thoughts are really with you and I hope that you will get a certain answer sooner than later..

*hugs from Denmark*

Canadia · Post by **Canadia** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:03 am

Hi Sally - It's too bad that this post ended up turning into a debate about breeder/owner/forum etiquette - I say forget all of that, this is about you and your girl and I know we all want the best for both of you. x

Gaby · Post by **Gaby** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:37 am

Sylvaen wrote:
Sally wrote:I think I have already said I was mistaken in posting here, when some of you find it upsetting or offensive.
I am very new to the forum and was hoping to share with like minded people ( I think the one thing we all share is a love for our dogs and responsibility for their welfare)
Whatever thoughts people have about me, you can be assured that my puppy is getting the best care I can give her.
Please don't ever feel ashamed or embarrassed to post your concerns here on the forum, especially when it relates to the health of Tamaskan Dogs - that's why the forum exists... so that we can all learn from one another and share our experiences / offer advice and suggestions, etc. I am still hoping that your vet was wrong, somehow, and that everything will be OK. Please keep us posted!!

I agree with that! I hope you keep us updated! When do you have the next appointment with your puppy?

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:19 pm

Thanks for the kind wishes. I am waiting a few weeks before I see the cardiologist. This will give her a chance to grow, and should give us a more definite diagnosis.

@Terri - I am also a very private person ( not in the habit of posting my problems to the world ) I posted my dogs health issue to a relatively small group of Tamaskan owners and dog enthusiasts!!

Post by **TerriHolt** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:45 pm

Sally wrote:Thanks for the kind wishes. I am waiting a few weeks before I see the cardiologist. This will give her a chance to grow, and should give us a more definite diagnosis.

@Terri - I am also a very private person ( not in the habit of posting my problems to the world ) I posted my dogs health issue to a relatively small group of Tamaskan owners and dog enthusiasts!!

i didn't mean you did... what i tried to say came out wrong (as it usually does when typed

), i was just trying to explain why i would have held off a little longer... i didn't mean you should have because a lot of other people would have done the same thing you did... no one said you was wrong for doing so and no one wants you to think differently about what you post hear in regards to health or your pup in anyway...

hope the vet has dodgy equipment and is very wrong and it all works out for you...

Sally · Post by **Sally** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:19 am

@Terri,
I understand what you mean, I am terrible at putting in writing what I am thinking. No hard feelings

blufawn · Post by **blufawn** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:03 pm

Heart Murmurs do tend to disappear after about 2 weeks, it might be worth your while taking her to another vet for a health check, she may be cleared earlier and you wont have to worry for as long.

Chantelle · Post by **Chantelle** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:46 pm

Sally, I'm sorry you're having to go through these worries, please keep us updated, I'm sure it will turn out ok

Sending positive thoughts your way...

JulieSmith · Post by **JulieSmith** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:37 pm

I also think it was a shame that things went a bit off track, it is one of the problems with the written word, it does not always come across as we mean it to.

Please keep us updated, my thoughts are with you and I can understand that other people do not always understand what having a Tamaskan in your life means, some people do not understand why a dog can be important

So please keep sharing, even if occasionally things are miswritten or misinterpreted as a group we get there eventually.

Blustag · Post by **Blustag** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:34 pm

Sally I have emailed you a couple of times but not heard back from you. Let me know if you have received them or not.

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