Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

All topics pertaining to mating and whelping, as well as upcoming / planned litters.
Rahne

Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:51 pm

Yes another outcross litter! :D

Ziva, an 18 month old mix female, is planned to be bred coming spring/summer to add some fresh blood to the Tamaskan.
Ziva her mother is a cross German Shepherd x Saarloos Wolfdog and her father is a cross Siberian Husky x White Swiss Shepherd. Sadly we do not know anything else about her background, but because Ziva fits the Tamaskan standard in looks AND temperament most of us feel she would be a good choice for outcrossing. I've been in contact with Ziva and her owners from since she was a pup, so have seen her development.

Here are some recent pictures of Ziva:
Image

Image

Image

The father of the litter will (most likely) be Avak Balach vom Muensterland at Weylyn (Avak).

Image

Ziva:
Hips = BVA 8
DM = Clear
Dwarfism = Clear
MDR1 = Clear

Avak:
Hips = BVA 11
Elbows = Clear
DM = Carrier

Pedigree: http://www.tamaskan-dog.org/database/pe ... =485&gen=5

If anyone is interested in a pup from this mating you can mail Marion (Sunkmanitu Tanka O'waci) at: willem_marion@quicknet.nl

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5206
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Sylvaen » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:58 pm

This should be a great mating... very nice combination!
I'm already looking forward to seeing puppy photos!! :D
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
HiTenshi16
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 4802
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 7:11 pm
Location: Princeton, TX US
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by HiTenshi16 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:27 pm

Also can't wait, should make lovely puppies :D Very exciting!
Image

User avatar
wolfwoman
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Posts: 480
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:55 pm
Location: (Andel) The Netherlands
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by wolfwoman » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Beautiful combination. :!:

Let's hope that she is not like Kaylee.
That bitch is still not in heat .... :?
Image
http://www.vantaelsesluske.nl __ greetings Stefanie

User avatar
Cornelia1986
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 171
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 am
Location: 9500 Villach

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Cornelia1986 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:01 pm

Wow - she is such a beauty! Like Summer from the Münsterland-Pack!
There once was a wolf-
a wolf lonlier than the mountains

weylyn

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by weylyn » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:12 pm

Would be so curious how these pup will turn out
and a nice first step of a collaboration between the TDR and the TBA ;)

User avatar
arianwenarie
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1244
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 5:07 pm
Location: USA

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by arianwenarie » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:16 pm

weylyn wrote:Would be so curious how these pup will turn out
and a nice first step of a collaboration between the TDR and the TBA ;)
My thoughts exactly. I can't wait to see how these pups turn out! :D

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5206
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Sylvaen » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:55 pm

weylyn wrote:Would be so curious how these pup will turn out
and a nice first step of a collaboration between the TDR and the TBA ;)
I agree... :D
It will also be very nice to see what kind of puppies Avak produces and to give him a chance to sire his first litter - another viable stud dog in Europe. :)
I'm excited to see the results because this will be a totally fresh bloodline and the puppies should turn out very nice. :D
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
JoaquimJoe
Tamific (Novice)
Tamific (Novice)
Posts: 284
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:03 pm
Location: Berlicum (The Netherlands)
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by JoaquimJoe » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:03 pm

wolfwoman wrote:Beautiful combination. :!:

Let's hope that she is not like Kaylee.
That bitch is still not in heat .... :?



OOOW she is really testing your patience :mrgreen:
Sterkte! Good luck hoop she be in heat soon!
Don't appologise for your ancestry, but stand straight and be proud (Dogwisdom)

User avatar
JoaquimJoe
Tamific (Novice)
Tamific (Novice)
Posts: 284
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:03 pm
Location: Berlicum (The Netherlands)
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by JoaquimJoe » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:03 pm

Beautifull doggies
Don't appologise for your ancestry, but stand straight and be proud (Dogwisdom)

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5206
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Sylvaen » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:21 pm

Cornelia1986 wrote:Wow - she is such a beauty! Like Summer from the Münsterland-Pack!
She looks like Summer, but Summer is also Avak's mother ;)
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
Cornelia1986
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 171
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 am
Location: 9500 Villach

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Cornelia1986 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:23 pm

Does anyone know how tall Ziva and Avak are?
There once was a wolf-
a wolf lonlier than the mountains

weylyn

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by weylyn » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:43 pm

Avak has a shoulder height of 75/77 cm

Rahne

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:31 pm

Ziva is approx 63/64 cm shoulderheight and weighs 25kg at the moment. She is a very sweet girl, gets along great with all people and other dogs.

User avatar
Cornelia1986
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 171
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 am
Location: 9500 Villach

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Cornelia1986 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:43 pm

Avak the giant and Ziva the petite princess :lol: A really nice couple!
There once was a wolf-
a wolf lonlier than the mountains

User avatar
Nimwey
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 113
Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 8:44 am
Location: Sweden
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Nimwey » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:11 pm

Interesting!

She is gorgeous and so is (to be) daddy. :D
Image
Mother Nature does not rule by fear and anger, but by calm strength and assertiveness - Cesar Millan

Rahne

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:26 pm

Cornelia1986 wrote:Avak the giant and Ziva the petite princess :lol: A really nice couple!
Actually Ziva is a regular size for a 'Tamaskan' female, Avak is just huge! (even for a male) ;)

User avatar
Cornelia1986
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 171
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 am
Location: 9500 Villach

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Cornelia1986 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:35 pm

I love the 'huge' Tamaskans! I hope to see one in nature soon :)
There once was a wolf-
a wolf lonlier than the mountains

User avatar
AZDehlin
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3039
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:52 am
Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan, USA (for now)
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by AZDehlin » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:49 pm

If I could afford to import I would be interested to bring a female from this mating to the states.

User avatar
arianwenarie
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1244
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 5:07 pm
Location: USA

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by arianwenarie » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:47 pm

Rahne wrote:
Cornelia1986 wrote:Avak the giant and Ziva the petite princess :lol: A really nice couple!
Actually Ziva is a regular size for a 'Tamaskan' female, Avak is just huge! (even for a male) ;)
If memory serves me correct, then I think most (if not all) the boys in the first Muensterland litter are giants. ;)

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5206
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Sylvaen » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:17 pm

AZDehlin wrote:If I could afford to import I would be interested to bring a female from this mating to the states.
I think it would be a good idea to contact Marion to discuss prices. ;)
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
Ryphen
Tamific (Novice)
Tamific (Novice)
Posts: 261
Joined: Mon May 23, 2011 8:22 pm
Location: New York, USA

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Ryphen » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:43 am

Should be a nice litter. One day when I'm rich I'll be able to do more than just look at pictures!

User avatar
Katlin
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2739
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:48 am
Location: Calgary, AB
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Katlin » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:18 am

arianwenarie wrote:
Rahne wrote:
Cornelia1986 wrote:Avak the giant and Ziva the petite princess :lol: A really nice couple!
Actually Ziva is a regular size for a 'Tamaskan' female, Avak is just huge! (even for a male) ;)
If memory serves me correct, then I think most (if not all) the boys in the first Muensterland litter are giants. ;)
Yup, Nanuq is the biggest tamaskan male so far (I'm pretty sure). I think Zolo was a bit on the smaller side though.
Polarose Tamaskan
Polardog Outfitters
Owner of Sierra Kaweah RN RI TDI TRN TTDN CRN-MCL @ Polarose

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5206
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Sylvaen » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:29 am

Katlin wrote:Yup, Nanuq is the biggest tamaskan male so far (I'm pretty sure). I think Zolo was a bit on the smaller side though.
Zoolo is female (Nanuq's sister) ;)
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

User avatar
Katlin
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2739
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:48 am
Location: Calgary, AB
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Katlin » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:41 am

Sylvaen wrote:
Katlin wrote:Yup, Nanuq is the biggest tamaskan male so far (I'm pretty sure). I think Zolo was a bit on the smaller side though.
Zoolo is female (Nanuq's sister) ;)
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Whooppsss.... Welll, she is on the smaller side compared to the rest of her litter :lol: :oops:
Polarose Tamaskan
Polardog Outfitters
Owner of Sierra Kaweah RN RI TDI TRN TTDN CRN-MCL @ Polarose

User avatar
TerriHolt
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3274
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:56 am
Location: UK, East Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by TerriHolt » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:57 am

weylyn wrote:Avak has a shoulder height of 75/77 cm
Wow :shock: Tall boy... Sam is only 72/73cm... ish...
Image

There’s a battle between two wolves inside us all.
One is Evil. It’s anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, inferiority, lies and ego.
The other is Good. It’s joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness and truth.

The wolf that wins? The one you feed!

~ Cherokee Proverb

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity... I'm not sure about the former.

~ Albert Einstein

User avatar
AZDehlin
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3039
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:52 am
Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan, USA (for now)
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by AZDehlin » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:41 am

Sylvaen wrote:
AZDehlin wrote:If I could afford to import I would be interested to bring a female from this mating to the states.
I think it would be a good idea to contact Marion to discuss prices. ;)
Not sure I can afford it but it's worth asking.

User avatar
Tatzel
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Posts: 512
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:17 am
Location: Berlin

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Tatzel » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:46 pm

This looks like a really promising mating! I'm so looking forward to see the pups :D
Image

User avatar
Sylvaen
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 5206
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 3:53 pm
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Sylvaen » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:36 pm

I'm curious to see how the pups will turn out because Ziva's father (Storm) looks quite a lot like Avak's mother (Summer) - more husky-like.
while Ziva's mother (Sitah) has more resemblance toward Avak's father (Bobbi) - more GSD-like
I think the pups will look really great... and have fantastic health too! :)
Image
The future lies before you, like a path of pure white snow...
Be careful how you tread it, for every step will show.

Rahne

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:08 pm

Sitah, mother of Ziva (German Shepherd Dog x Saarloos Wolfdog), with pups:
mom_ziva.jpg
Storm, father of Ziva (White Swiss Shepherd x Siberian Husky):
Storm.jpg
Nalah, sibling of Ziva:
Nalah.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
Gaby
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 1205
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 1:08 am
Location: Groningen, the Netherlands

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Gaby » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:10 am

Nice! Hope everything will go as planned. And what a handsome father Ziva has! Wow!

User avatar
Tiantai
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2558
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:16 pm
Location: Canada (North York, Ontario)

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Tiantai » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:17 am

Ziva has an awesome + unique looking background
Image

Rahne

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:26 pm

Avak & Ziva :)

Image

User avatar
Cornelia1986
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 171
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 am
Location: 9500 Villach

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Cornelia1986 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:05 pm

What a beautiful couple!
There once was a wolf-
a wolf lonlier than the mountains

User avatar
Tiantai
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2558
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:16 pm
Location: Canada (North York, Ontario)

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Tiantai » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:02 am

Will these dogs also be registered with the TBA?
Image

Rahne

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:41 am

Tiantai wrote:Will these dogs also be registered with the TBA?
No, Ziva and Avak are both TDR registered and so will the pups.

User avatar
Tiantai
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2558
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:16 pm
Location: Canada (North York, Ontario)

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Tiantai » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:05 pm

Rahne wrote:
Tiantai wrote:Will these dogs also be registered with the TBA?
No, Ziva and Avak are both TDR registered and so will the pups.
Ah, that's great! :D Especially since we've recently reunited :!:
Image

User avatar
Gabriele58
Tamific (Novice)
Tamific (Novice)
Posts: 258
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:31 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Gabriele58 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:07 pm

They make a beautiful couple. I can't wait to see how these pups will turn out. I hope one of the pups does end up in the U.S. or Canada, as I would love to have one from this bloodline. Getting one from this litter, if the mating is successful isn't in the budget right now. :(
~Gabriele~

Image

User avatar
MaaikeBerg
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:08 pm
Location: Eefde
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by MaaikeBerg » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:28 pm

Cornelia1986 wrote:I love the 'huge' Tamaskans! I hope to see one in nature soon :)

We met Avak....pow what a handsome guy that is, Very impressive dog (in a good way!).

And Ziva, she makes me feel to cuddle her. Such a lovely girl. And she has humor. Was playing "catch me as you can"...

Both met them during a Tamaskan walk. Lovely couple, we're on the puppie list!

User avatar
Cornelia1986
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 171
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:00 am
Location: 9500 Villach

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Cornelia1986 » Sat May 04, 2013 1:14 pm

I'm happy to get the permission from Marion to post it on the Forum:
Ziva is in heat (first day of heat 1.May)!!!
She will be mated to Mirans Avak soon!

(Ps.: YAY)
There once was a wolf-
a wolf lonlier than the mountains

Rahne

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Sat May 04, 2013 3:34 pm

Cornelia1986 wrote:I'm happy to get the permission from Marion to post it on the Forum:
Ziva is in heat (first day of heat 1.May)!!!
She will be mated to Mirans Avak soon!

(Ps.: YAY)
:D

balto13
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Posts: 439
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:40 am

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by balto13 » Sat May 04, 2013 11:56 pm

yay!

User avatar
TerriHolt
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3274
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:56 am
Location: UK, East Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by TerriHolt » Sun May 05, 2013 7:51 am

:D
Image

There’s a battle between two wolves inside us all.
One is Evil. It’s anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, inferiority, lies and ego.
The other is Good. It’s joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness and truth.

The wolf that wins? The one you feed!

~ Cherokee Proverb

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity... I'm not sure about the former.

~ Albert Einstein

User avatar
darazan
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Tamthusiastic (Newbie)
Posts: 82
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:54 am
Location: California, USA

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by darazan » Sun May 05, 2013 8:09 pm

Rahne wrote:
Tiantai wrote:Will these dogs also be registered with the TBA?
No, Ziva and Avak are both TDR registered and so will the pups.
Something I've wondered about outcrosses and foundation dogs: Why are they registered with the TDR if they are not Tamaskans? After all, their breed doesn't change.
-Crystal

Rahne

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Rahne » Sun May 05, 2013 9:21 pm

darazan wrote:
Rahne wrote:
Tiantai wrote:Will these dogs also be registered with the TBA?
No, Ziva and Avak are both TDR registered and so will the pups.
Something I've wondered about outcrosses and foundation dogs: Why are they registered with the TDR if they are not Tamaskans? After all, their breed doesn't change.
Because we want to keep track of everything from the start.

weylyn

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by weylyn » Fri May 10, 2013 2:49 pm

Avak and Ziva just had this morning a date.......Avak isn't interested enough yet to cover her.......
So Sunday we will have an other date between them.

balto13
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Tamtastic (Apprentice)
Posts: 439
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:40 am

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by balto13 » Fri May 10, 2013 3:29 pm

weylyn wrote:Avak and Ziva just had this morning a date.......Avak isn't interested enough yet to cover her.......
So Sunday we will have an other date between them.
fingers crossed, Go Avak! haha

User avatar
TerriHolt
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 3274
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:56 am
Location: UK, East Yorkshire
Contact:

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by TerriHolt » Fri May 10, 2013 6:33 pm

weylyn wrote:Avak isn't interested enough yet to cover her.......

Awww, he being a gentleman ;)
Image

There’s a battle between two wolves inside us all.
One is Evil. It’s anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, inferiority, lies and ego.
The other is Good. It’s joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness and truth.

The wolf that wins? The one you feed!

~ Cherokee Proverb

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity... I'm not sure about the former.

~ Albert Einstein

User avatar
Tiantai
Tamificent (Guru)
Tamificent (Guru)
Posts: 2558
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:16 pm
Location: Canada (North York, Ontario)

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by Tiantai » Fri May 10, 2013 7:32 pm

Well as I guy who still holds on to traditional morals, if a dog does not want to mate, it should be accepted as that even though it would mean that you won't have pups. However, I do hope Avak and Ziva will and that this new outcross adds new lines to the Tamaskan genepool.
Image

weylyn

Re: Outcross litter planned in the Netherlands – summer 2013

Post by weylyn » Fri May 10, 2013 8:25 pm

Tiantai wrote:Well as I guy who still holds on to traditional morals, if a dog does not want to mate, it should be accepted as that even though it would mean that you won't have pups. However, I do hope Avak and Ziva will and that this new outcross adds new lines to the Tamaskan genepool.
Don't worry we do not force ;)
But today it was the 9th day so she is just not on her high days yet ;)

Post Reply