Alba Zuul (4 year old female) - update 6 nov

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They should really spay her before she leaves... She has already done her time breeding and shouldn't be subjected to more...
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Poor Zuul :(
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yes i liked her
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Not sure if it's just me, but I can't get into Jennie's website
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claireyclaire wrote:Not sure if it's just me, but I can't get into Jennie's website
I can't either.
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claireyclaire wrote:Not sure if it's just me, but I can't get into Jennie's website
Someone who is registered might want to go to the 'other' forum to check if there is an updated link? Just a thought...
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Already have done! No updated link and this is the one still showing on her FB page
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Poor beautiful Zuul :(

How many times has she been bred from?
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3 times if I'm not mistaken...
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If Jennie would live up to TDR breeders standards, she should be contacting Alba for first chance to re-home Zuul.
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Katlin wrote:3 times if I'm not mistaken...
I believe she has actually had four litters:

X Men Litter
Herbs Litter
Easter Litter
John Denver Litter.
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4 years old bitch who have had 4 litters, how exactly does this even happen? :?
Even if she is 5 soon she would still have had 4 litters and since she would have had to be at least 15 months (I believe it has been changed to 18 months now?) with the first litter, so that's a breeding in every year since then and at least one back-to-back?
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Nino wrote:4 years old bitch who have had 4 litters, how exactly does this even happen? :?
Even if she is 5 soon she would still have had 4 litters and since she would have had to be at least 15 months (I believe it has been changed to 18 months now?) with the first litter, so that's a breeding in every year since then and at least one back-to-back?
She had Easter miracle and because it was the only up to survive, she claimed that was the reason that made it ok to breed again which i assume is John Denver Litter (altho i could have swore it had a different theme :oops: :lol: )... This is when i started looking at things a bit more closely... Just because only 1 survived, and they can't have made a lot off that 1 pup they breed again to make up the money they lost... But she still had a whole litter... just 1 surviving shoul not have been an excuse to breed again...
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If only one were born and it was an easy whelping (I might have considered either getting hand of another couple of pups of putting 1 pup in another litter so that it can be socialized with "siblings") I could understand it, but the pregnancy of a full litter would still take it's told on the body..
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Zuul was born September 2008, so almost 4 years old now.
The X-men litter was from Nevada, not Zuul. She had her litters in May 2010, April 2011 and March 2012. She was mated back-to-back but didn't got pregnant...
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Rahne wrote:Zuul was born September 2008, so almost 4 years old now.
The X-men litter was from Nevada, not Zuul. She had her litters in May 2010, April 2011 and March 2012. She was mated back-to-back but didn't got pregnant...
That was better then.. and I'm happy the back-to-back didn't take..
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Zuul her new owners are getting rid of her (due to work). If anyone can offer this lovely girl a home in the UK, would be great!!!

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Honestly it's soo sad to see these tams being re-homed over and over again, even bear can't find a forever home :( Shouldn't potential adopters no what their schedules are like before they consider adopting :(
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I have always liked Zuul .. I think she just like my Nova :lol: :o :shock: :twisted: ;)
Would love to have her.
Hope she will find a forever home next time. :(
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Poor girl :(
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Shame they said she is not good with cats :( So many of their dogs been re-homed lately... It absurd...
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That's what I was wondering Terri. Jennie has said before that she is not good with cats but the woman who is selling her says she is good with other dogs, children and cats. Her description needs to be factual or she will only end up in another home that wont keep her :( This whole thing makes me sick :evil:
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Very very sad!!! I think he current owner is possibly advertising her as three years old?? :cry:
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Misaya wrote:That's what I was wondering Terri. Jennie has said before that she is not good with cats but the woman who is selling her says she is good with other dogs, children and cats. Her description needs to be factual or she will only end up in another home that wont keep her :( This whole thing makes me sick :evil:
It's hard to know what to believe and people will say anything to make a dog more re-homable if they 'need rid'... As much as i feel bad for her, it's not worth it on my eye's to risk my babies (Sam, cats or kids).
I was considering taking Bear the 1st time because lynn said he was good with other dogs, it's just by chance i decided adding a dog with sever SA to a dog that already had SA was not such a good plan, which was lucky because someone said bear was not good with other dogs... I did pm pawprint on hear to get some more info on him like how bad was his SA to start with but she never replied which didn't give me chance to ask about dogs, cats and kids which solidified my decision...
I would give anything to see her in a good home, did lynn get her spayed before she left? More to the point, are we 100% sure this is Zuul?

I'm asking about the cats...
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Well, I think she is actually ok with kids and other dogs. It was just cats that were a problem, but I suppose that might be dependent on circumstances, eg my two live with my cats, but if they see one outside they want to chase it. I dont think she has a great recall, but I suppose that could be worked on. I'm sure it is is Zuul and I am pretty sure they did not have her spayed. I doubt if they would want to spend the extra money when they sold her for so little :(
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I didn't think she wold be, was just hoping someone would say yes :( How did they know they didn't sell her to someone who would breed her some more... Retired breeding dogs shold be spayed before been re homed IMO...

I can't stress enough how much i have thought about this... I've gone over different scenarios of ways i could take her... I wish i could but it's too much of a risk... I need to put the furries in my house first... And it wouldn't be fair to take her knowing it may be a possibility to re-home her again... And Sam is a typical horny teen when it comes to ladies :oops: ...
I really hope someone good will give her a forever home (before i talk my self out of been sensible) and give her a happy retirement...
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:evil: :evil:
In both cases
I can say a lot of nasty words here now but I am not going to
I think most can guess what I am thinking.........
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Me too Weylyn....

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looks like the advert is now archived
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Sorry for stating the obvious for those who have seen it but she is back with Lynn... At least i can't change my mind about taking her now :(
And i can't see Lynn breeding her again... Then again, she does have a high number of accidents :?
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TerriHolt wrote:Sorry for stating the obvious for those who have seen it but she is back with Lynn... At least i can't change my mind about taking her now :(
And i can't see Lynn breeding her again... Then again, she does have a high number of accidents :?
I would take her if its true that she is good with other dogs.. I have a cat and Nova is not exactly good with cats :o it's ok as long as they don't run away from her... then she will hunt :shock: she is just like her mom I guess :)
If everything is true.. that she is good with people, dogs and cats I would gladly give her a home here with us. :D
It's just that I have come to the point that I don't trust every word being written about dogs for re-homing. :? :( :?
SA is not good but Maccon got the same problem.. gotten much better though..and I don't think that is any BIG problem for us. Nova have never ever had any SA.. and she is Zuuls daughter :D
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susann wrote:
TerriHolt wrote:Sorry for stating the obvious for those who have seen it but she is back with Lynn... At least i can't change my mind about taking her now :(
And i can't see Lynn breeding her again... Then again, she does have a high number of accidents :?
I would take her if its true that she is good with other dogs.. I have a cat and Nova is not exactly good with cats :o it's ok as long as they don't run away from her... then she will hunt :shock: she is just like her mom I guess :)
If everything is true.. that she is good with people, dogs and cats I would gladly give her a home here with us. :D
It's just that I have come to the point that I don't trust every word being written about dogs for re-homing. :? :( :?
SA is not good but Maccon got the same problem.. gotten much better though..and I don't think that is any BIG problem for us. Nova have never ever had any SA.. and she is Zuuls daughter :D
I wish i knew what she is like with cats... The ad said she is good but jennie said she can not be trusted with them (i would never forgive my self if i took her and anything happened to my cats and it wouldn't be fair to risk re homing her yet again...)... She would also need to be spayed before coming hear... I know everyone has said she is good with other dogs and kids...
It has also come to the point of not trusting what people say anymore for me :( ... But been back with Lynn, hell would freeze over before she even entertained the idea of even considering me to take her...
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Zuul appears to have been rehomed again by Lynn, as from their forum 14/11/12:

"Update on Zuul. We have found her a lovely forever home where she
will be happy."

I do hope so :!:
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Oh i hope so too...
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Im very sad to say That Zuul was put to sleep this morning after short illness. We are all very sad to loose her and her very sweet nature. She was very much loved by us all.

RIP Zuul <3
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fozzy wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:16 pm Im very sad to say That Zuul was put to sleep this morning after short illness. We are all very sad to loose her and her very sweet nature. She was very much loved by us all.

RIP Zuul <3
I'm so sorry to hear that... what was the illness? :(
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I just logged in for the first time in ages. Sorry to hear Zuul (my Cindy's mum) had died.
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so sorry to hear about Zuul R.I.P sweetheart.
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