Alba Zuul (4 year old female) - update 6 nov

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:26 am

http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/ ... emale.html

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:33 pm

They should really spay her before she leaves... She has already done her time breeding and shouldn't be subjected to more...

HiTenshi16 · Post by **HiTenshi16** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:06 pm

Poor Zuul

torriarno · Post by **torriarno** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:43 pm

yes i liked her

claireyclaire · Post by **claireyclaire** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:01 pm

Not sure if it's just me, but I can't get into Jennie's website

Katlin · Post by **Katlin** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:09 pm

claireyclaire wrote:Not sure if it's just me, but I can't get into Jennie's website

I can't either.

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:23 pm

claireyclaire wrote:Not sure if it's just me, but I can't get into Jennie's website

Someone who is registered might want to go to the 'other' forum to check if there is an updated link? Just a thought...

claireyclaire · Post by **claireyclaire** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:39 pm

Already have done! No updated link and this is the one still showing on her FB page

susann · Post by **susann** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:06 pm

Poor beautiful Zuul

How many times has she been bred from?

Katlin · Post by **Katlin** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:43 pm

3 times if I'm not mistaken...

Tarheel · Post by **Tarheel** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:47 am

If Jennie would live up to TDR breeders standards, she should be contacting Alba for first chance to re-home Zuul.

AZDehlin · Post by **AZDehlin** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:24 am

Katlin wrote:3 times if I'm not mistaken...

I believe she has actually had four litters:

X Men Litter
Herbs Litter
Easter Litter
John Denver Litter.

Ciaobella · Post by **Ciaobella** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:20 am

Nino · Post by **Nino** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:49 am

4 years old bitch who have had 4 litters, how exactly does this even happen?

Even if she is 5 soon she would still have had 4 litters and since she would have had to be at least 15 months (I believe it has been changed to 18 months now?) with the first litter, so that's a breeding in every year since then and at least one back-to-back?

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:04 am

Nino wrote:4 years old bitch who have had 4 litters, how exactly does this even happen?
Even if she is 5 soon she would still have had 4 litters and since she would have had to be at least 15 months (I believe it has been changed to 18 months now?) with the first litter, so that's a breeding in every year since then and at least one back-to-back?

She had Easter miracle and because it was the only up to survive, she claimed that was the reason that made it ok to breed again which i assume is John Denver Litter (altho i could have swore it had a different theme

)... This is when i started looking at things a bit more closely... Just because only 1 survived, and they can't have made a lot off that 1 pup they breed again to make up the money they lost... But she still had a whole litter... just 1 surviving shoul not have been an excuse to breed again...

Nino · Post by **Nino** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:14 am

If only one were born and it was an easy whelping (I might have considered either getting hand of another couple of pups of putting 1 pup in another litter so that it can be socialized with "siblings") I could understand it, but the pregnancy of a full litter would still take it's told on the body..

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:41 am

Zuul was born September 2008, so almost 4 years old now.
The X-men litter was from Nevada, not Zuul. She had her litters in May 2010, April 2011 and March 2012. She was mated back-to-back but didn't got pregnant...

Nino · Post by **Nino** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:04 am

Rahne wrote:Zuul was born September 2008, so almost 4 years old now.
The X-men litter was from Nevada, not Zuul. She had her litters in May 2010, April 2011 and March 2012. She was mated back-to-back but didn't got pregnant...

That was better then.. and I'm happy the back-to-back didn't take..

Rahne · Post by **Rahne** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:07 pm

Zuul her new owners are getting rid of her (due to work). If anyone can offer this lovely girl a home in the UK, would be great!!!

https://apps.facebook.com/marketplace/v ... .oodle.com

TParham86 · Post by **TParham86** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:23 pm

Honestly it's soo sad to see these tams being re-homed over and over again, even bear can't find a forever home

Shouldn't potential adopters no what their schedules are like before they consider adopting

susann · Post by **susann** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:24 pm

I have always liked Zuul .. I think she just like my Nova

Would love to have her.
Hope she will find a forever home next time.

HiTenshi16 · Post by **HiTenshi16** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:15 pm

Poor girl

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:03 pm

Shame they said she is not good with cats

So many of their dogs been re-homed lately... It absurd...

Misaya · Post by **Misaya** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:40 pm

That's what I was wondering Terri. Jennie has said before that she is not good with cats but the woman who is selling her says she is good with other dogs, children and cats. Her description needs to be factual or she will only end up in another home that wont keep her

This whole thing makes me sick

spidley · Post by **spidley** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:24 am

Very very sad!!! I think he current owner is possibly advertising her as three years old??

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:07 am

Misaya wrote:That's what I was wondering Terri. Jennie has said before that she is not good with cats but the woman who is selling her says she is good with other dogs, children and cats. Her description needs to be factual or she will only end up in another home that wont keep her This whole thing makes me sick

It's hard to know what to believe and people will say anything to make a dog more re-homable if they 'need rid'... As much as i feel bad for her, it's not worth it on my eye's to risk my babies (Sam, cats or kids).
I was considering taking Bear the 1st time because lynn said he was good with other dogs, it's just by chance i decided adding a dog with sever SA to a dog that already had SA was not such a good plan, which was lucky because someone said bear was not good with other dogs... I did pm pawprint on hear to get some more info on him like how bad was his SA to start with but she never replied which didn't give me chance to ask about dogs, cats and kids which solidified my decision...
I would give anything to see her in a good home, did lynn get her spayed before she left? More to the point, are we 100% sure this is Zuul?

I'm asking about the cats...

Misaya · Post by **Misaya** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:30 am

Well, I think she is actually ok with kids and other dogs. It was just cats that were a problem, but I suppose that might be dependent on circumstances, eg my two live with my cats, but if they see one outside they want to chase it. I dont think she has a great recall, but I suppose that could be worked on. I'm sure it is is Zuul and I am pretty sure they did not have her spayed. I doubt if they would want to spend the extra money when they sold her for so little

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:31 am

I didn't think she wold be, was just hoping someone would say yes

How did they know they didn't sell her to someone who would breed her some more... Retired breeding dogs shold be spayed before been re homed IMO...

I can't stress enough how much i have thought about this... I've gone over different scenarios of ways i could take her... I wish i could but it's too much of a risk... I need to put the furries in my house first... And it wouldn't be fair to take her knowing it may be a possibility to re-home her again... And Sam is a typical horny teen when it comes to ladies

...
I really hope someone good will give her a forever home (before i talk my self out of been sensible) and give her a happy retirement...

weylyn · Post by **weylyn** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:50 am

In both cases
I can say a lot of nasty words here now but I am not going to
I think most can guess what I am thinking.........

Nahani · Post by **Nahani** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:03 pm

Me too Weylyn....

Tiantai · Post by **Tiantai** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:40 pm

looks like the advert is now archived

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:17 pm

Sorry for stating the obvious for those who have seen it but she is back with Lynn... At least i can't change my mind about taking her now

And i can't see Lynn breeding her again... Then again, she does have a high number of accidents

susann · Post by **susann** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:15 pm

TerriHolt wrote:Sorry for stating the obvious for those who have seen it but she is back with Lynn... At least i can't change my mind about taking her now
And i can't see Lynn breeding her again... Then again, she does have a high number of accidents

I would take her if its true that she is good with other dogs.. I have a cat and Nova is not exactly good with cats

it's ok as long as they don't run away from her... then she will hunt

she is just like her mom I guess

If everything is true.. that she is good with people, dogs and cats I would gladly give her a home here with us.

It's just that I have come to the point that I don't trust every word being written about dogs for re-homing.

SA is not good but Maccon got the same problem.. gotten much better though..and I don't think that is any BIG problem for us. Nova have never ever had any SA.. and she is Zuuls daughter

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:52 pm

susann wrote:
TerriHolt wrote:Sorry for stating the obvious for those who have seen it but she is back with Lynn... At least i can't change my mind about taking her now
And i can't see Lynn breeding her again... Then again, she does have a high number of accidents
I would take her if its true that she is good with other dogs.. I have a cat and Nova is not exactly good with cats it's ok as long as they don't run away from her... then she will hunt she is just like her mom I guess
If everything is true.. that she is good with people, dogs and cats I would gladly give her a home here with us.
It's just that I have come to the point that I don't trust every word being written about dogs for re-homing.
SA is not good but Maccon got the same problem.. gotten much better though..and I don't think that is any BIG problem for us. Nova have never ever had any SA.. and she is Zuuls daughter

I wish i knew what she is like with cats... The ad said she is good but jennie said she can not be trusted with them (i would never forgive my self if i took her and anything happened to my cats and it wouldn't be fair to risk re homing her yet again...)... She would also need to be spayed before coming hear... I know everyone has said she is good with other dogs and kids...
It has also come to the point of not trusting what people say anymore for me

... But been back with Lynn, hell would freeze over before she even entertained the idea of even considering me to take her...

Misaya · Post by **Misaya** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:28 pm

Zuul appears to have been rehomed again by Lynn, as from their forum 14/11/12:

"Update on Zuul. We have found her a lovely forever home where she
will be happy."

I do hope so

TerriHolt · Post by **TerriHolt** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:51 pm

Oh i hope so too...

fozzy · Post by **fozzy** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:16 pm

Im very sad to say That Zuul was put to sleep this morning after short illness. We are all very sad to loose her and her very sweet nature. She was very much loved by us all.

RIP Zuul <3

YouTube · Post by **Sylvaen** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:09 am

fozzy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:16 pm Im very sad to say That Zuul was put to sleep this morning after short illness. We are all very sad to loose her and her very sweet nature. She was very much loved by us all.

RIP Zuul <3

I'm so sorry to hear that... what was the illness?

MelB · Post by **MelB** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:46 pm

I just logged in for the first time in ages. Sorry to hear Zuul (my Cindy's mum) had died.

wicca1 · Post by **wicca1** » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:54 pm

so sorry to hear about Zuul R.I.P sweetheart.

fhughes · Post by **fhughes** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:26 am

Exactly... and then to go back again the same year, breeding one bitch every year, is too much for any dog (especially not being spayed)...

fhughes · Post by **fhughes** » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:24 pm

The first litter was in 2013... So if you follow that timeline, she had her first litter when she was just over 1 year old - which is pretty young for a bitch to have a litter. The fact that she's been breeding ever since is worrying and doesn't seem right to me!
And yes, I agree with you about only having one pup survive from a litter shouldn't be an excuse to breed again straight away - there are too many dogs in need of homes as it is without adding more puppies to the mix!

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