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Just curious...

Does the TDR require breeders to decide on the registered names for all their puppies? Is that a rule? Or just something of a tradition that has been kept?
I understand why the litter gets a theme, no different than the breeds or breeders that give each litter a letter, work through the alphabet and ask owners to think of a name starting with that letter (But in that case the registered name does contain the call name).
The one horse breed I studied the registry had a letter for each year. Every breeder had to name their progeny from that year starting with that letter. By the call name you knew how old the horse was. Their full registered names also had to include the sire's name...so my horse's name was "ShadowGate's Dandy Motion" ...my breeding name, sire's name and the horse's name using the letter of the year. Their pedigrees were wonderful to study and easily learned by even rookies!

Tamaskan pedigree's are short and sweet...for now...so not a big deal.


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I think so...? Only reason why I say that is because unlike some KCs (in the States, anyway), the registration papers don't go to the new owners...the breeder does all the registration paperwork and pays for the all the fees, I think.

I also think few people actually decide on a name when they pick their puppy. :P Thus, every breeder has a theme for their litter(s), submits registration paperwork and obtains the pedigrees and whatnot by the time the pups go to their new homes? At least, that's what I think the procedure is...

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Excellent question....I totally don't know either! I know Lynn posted on her website that:
Kennel Names help form part of each dog’s name ie. the kennel name 'Tamtastic' would then follow with the dogs own name – Tamtastic Turnip. In this way people will know exactly which kennel bred each Tamaskan.

Also breeders who then purchase these puppies may add their own Kennel Name at the end ie. Tamtastic Turnip at Greenbay. This way everyone knows Tamtastic kennel bred the dog and Greenbay kennel owns the dog.

Dogs you see in pedigree's without a kennel name in front or behind are either not Tamaskan or are the Foundation Stock of the Tamaskan Breed.
But I'm not sure if the TDR is sticking with this??
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Katlin wrote:Excellent question....I totally don't know either! I know Lynn posted on her website that:
Kennel Names help form part of each dog’s name ie. the kennel name 'Tamtastic' would then follow with the dogs own name – Tamtastic Turnip. In this way people will know exactly which kennel bred each Tamaskan.

Also breeders who then purchase these puppies may add their own Kennel Name at the end ie. Tamtastic Turnip at Greenbay. This way everyone knows Tamtastic kennel bred the dog and Greenbay kennel owns the dog.

Dogs you see in pedigree's without a kennel name in front or behind are either not Tamaskan or are the Foundation Stock of the Tamaskan Breed.
But I'm not sure if the TDR is sticking with this??
The kennel name of the breeder is pretty common place, at least in all registrations from all the registries I've ever seen. It seems to be a newer thing to add the kennel name of where the dog lives (or who has breeding rights to it) but I am also very familiar with this practice. So the info on Lynn's site doesn't seem odd to me in any way...it doesn't suggest that the new owner cannot have a say in the registered name at all...

@ arianwenarie...I like the idea of the breeders doing the paperwork and not the customers! It was like that for my first registered dog, a GSD that was CKC reg.'d . I still got to pick out the name but the breeder only gave me so much time to give him the reg'd name or he would decide for you. Quite a bit more complicated in Shilohs...too much in my opinion. So simpler sounds great :D

I'm sure someone can tell us if this is a rule or not... (I do understand that the "rules and regulations" are still in transition too) So if that area has not been decided or covered then that is ok too! :)
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Shadowgate wrote:The kennel name of the breeder is pretty common place, at least in all registrations from all the registries I've ever seen. It seems to be a newer thing to add the kennel name of where the dog lives (or who has breeding rights to it) but I am also very familiar with this practice. So the info on Lynn's site doesn't seem odd to me in any way...it doesn't suggest that the new owner cannot have a say in the registered name at all...

@ arianwenarie...I like the idea of the breeders doing the paperwork and not the customers! It was like that for my first registered dog, a GSD that was CKC reg.'d . I still got to pick out the name but the breeder only gave me so much time to give him the reg'd name or he would decide for you. Quite a bit more complicated in Shilohs...too much in my opinion. So simpler sounds great :D

I'm sure someone can tell us if this is a rule or not... (I do understand that the "rules and regulations" are still in transition too) So if that area has not been decided or covered then that is ok too! :)
If I'm not mistaken, I do think the TDR will continue to have each litter's breeder register the puppies with the TDR along with their registered names.

Depending on the breeder, a puppy buyer may be able to negotiate the official registered name. That was such in the case of Alba Zuul - though, I don't know how much of it was true, since at the time, Jennie was the TDR Secretary and processed all the paperwork. Of course, she's also the one who owns Zuul. :P Supposedly, Liz (Alba) allowed Jennie to use "Zuul" as her official registered name and consequently, that is also her call name: Alba Zuul at Blufawn (Zuul).
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Most tamaskan litters have a theme the breeder picks this theme and does all the paperwork. I think it makes it easier to tell who came from what litter from that specific breeder. But some breeders have let the owners pick the registered name as well.
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There is not a rule in place. Breeders can use a theme, a letter or let owners decide. The breeders where i got Konah from let owners decide. Konah = Konah vom Muensterland.
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Sorry to dig this up, but are all the litter themes listed somewhere? Complete with Sire and Dam listed? Thanks.
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I'm sure there used to be a thread, but I am unable to find it, possibly got deleted while the Blus were still here. The only thing I could find was a competition thread for ideas of litter themes. http://www.tamaskan-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=89
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Hawthorne wrote:Sorry to dig this up, but are all the litter themes listed somewhere? Complete with Sire and Dam listed? Thanks.
This is all I could think of off the top of my head; many litter themes are missing because while I know the registered names of some of the dogs in a particular litter, I don't know the name of the theme (i.e. Dallas/Dingo litter is not listed in here)...hope this helps a little. :) I separated everything by year because I was going down the litter listing list... I used the registered names as opposed to call names - testing your memory when it comes to reg'd tam names! lol.

EDIT: I know Blustag had a Dragon litter theme, but don't know the parents (Blustag Draco was one of the pups, I believe).

2005 – Utonagon and re-registered as Tamaskan
Redkite Wiyanna at Blustag x Anzara: Indian Tribe (?) Litter

2006
Blustag Mystic Spirit x Jackal at Blustag: River Litter
Sulin Iola at Blustag x Blustag Star Burst: Grand National Litter

2007
Redkite Mitka at Blustag x Whitefang: Little Litter
Blustag Menominee Owl at J&J x Blustag River Rising at J&J: Moon Litter
Moonstone Lovelight at Right Puppy x Blustag Wanderer at Right Puppy: Alaskan Cities Litter

2008
Sulin Iola at Blustag x Blustag Star Burst: Grand National Litter (theme reused)
Susi at Blustag x Jackal at Blustag: Ores (?)/Precious Stones(?) Litter
Sulin Iola at Blustag x Shadow of Yakama at Torriarno: James Bond Litter

2009 - *Double Mating
J&J Moonstruck Tundra at Tarheel x Alba Daer at Tarheel: Outerbanks Litter
Blustag Little Sunshine at Muensterland x Djoser van Rijneckerhof: No litter theme
*Blustag Bindaree at Blufawn x Dingo at Blustag: X-Men Litter
*Blustag Bindaree at Blufawn x Jackal at Blustag: X-Men Litter

2010 - *Double Mating
Blustag River Jordan at Sylvaen x Blustag Lapis Lazuli at Sylvaen: Firefox Litter
*Alba Zuul at Blufawn x Shepherdsway Snow Drifter at Blufawn: Herbs Litter
*Alba Zuul at Blufawn x Jackal at Blustag: Herbs Litter
Blustag Bindaree x Blustag Little Bear: Pigs Litter (aka Sugalba Pigs Litter)
Alba Sverical at J&J x J&J Night Owl: Devil (?) Litter
*Heidi at Blustag x Shadow of Yakama: Rose Litter
*Heidi at Blustag x Jackal at Blustag: Rose Litter
Blustag Little Sunshine at Muensterland x Jackal at Blustag: No litter theme
Blustag Atlin at Saxon x Blustag Desert Orchid at Saxon: Constellation Litter

2011
Alba Zuul at Blufawn x Blustag Desert Orchid at Saxon: Easter Litter
Blustag Bindaree x Blustag Little Bear: American States Litter
Sulin Iola at Blustag x Blustag Little Bear: Rolls Royce Litter
Shadowolf Sky Hope at Blustag x Jackal at Blustag: Flower Litter

2012 - *Double Mating
Blustag Atlin at Saxon x Blustag Desert Orchid at Saxon: Bulgarian Mountains Litter
Tarheel Ocracoke Treasure at Hawthorne x Sugalba Pigs Might Fly at Moondance: Yellowstone Litter
Heidi at Blustag x Blustag Sanuye: Golden Litter
*Jodie at Blustag x Dingo at Blustag: Disney Litter
*Jodie at Blustag x Jackal at Blustag: Disney Litter
Blufawn Ginger x Alba O’Shean at Blustag: Country Singers Litter
Blustag Yodel at Tarheel x Tarheel Rodanthe Wave: Pirates Litter
Tarheel Corolla Dune x Jaeger vom Muensterland at Tarheel: Avengers Litter
Sylvaen Vatrena Lisca at Quicksilver x Alba Rhudaur: Minerals (?) Litter
Blufawn Rogue at Sierra x J&J Devil of Piru at Hawthorne: Three Rivers Litter

2013
Blustag Atlin at Saxon x Blustag Desert Orchid at Saxon: Greek Deities Litter
Blustag Yodel at Tarheel x Jaeger vom Muensterland at Tarheel: Wild West Gun Slingers Litter
Tarheel Ocracoke Treasure at Hawthorne x Blustag Blue Gem at Basalt: Pi Litter
Blustag Bermuda Buttercup at Tamrakar x Sugalba Pigs Might Fly at Moondance: Harry Potter Litter
Saxon Aquila at White Elk x J&J Devil of Piru at Hawthorne: Explorers Litter
Tarheel Corolla Dune x Jaeger vom Muensterland at Tarheel: Nautical Litter
Blustag River Rising at Sylvaen x Blustag Elliot: Pokemon Litter
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arianwenarie wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:39 am I think so...? Only reason why I say that is because unlike some KCs (in the States, anyway), the registration papers don't go to the new owners...the breeder does all the registration paperwork and pays for the all the fees, I think.

I also think few people actually decide on a name when they pick their puppy. :P Thus, every breeder has a theme for their litter(s), submits registration paperwork and obtains the pedigrees and whatnot by the time the pups go to their new homes? At least, that's what I think the procedure is...

Someone chime in? XD
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You're probably correct! Many puppy owners are likely to take their time in selecting the appropriate name. Having litter themes and completing registration paperwork ahead of time appears to be a sensible approach to the task.Free Fire name
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